January 2025 - nexa - server-nexa.polito.it

[Nexa] Critica di ChatGpt

by Antonio Dante Maria Santangelo

Carissim*, dopo aver studiato a fondo tante delle cose che sono state dette e scritte in questa mailing list a proposito di ChatGpt e dell'IA generativa, vi segnalo questo libro nexiano, scritto da me, Alberto Sissa e Maurizio Borghi, con prefazione e postfazione di Juan Carlos De Martin e Marco Ricolfi. Lo abbiamo fatto anche nel libro, ma vi ringraziamo ancora una volta per le tante utili e interessanti suggestioni che condividete qui tutti i giorni. Un caro saluto, Antonio

Jan. 24, 2025

I tecno-baroni vogliono rovesciare la democrazia, riformiamo i social

by Antonio

All'inizio degli anni 2000 i social media hanno iniziato a prosperare con la promessa di unire le persone e rafforzare le nostre democrazie. Sulla base di questa promessa le istituzioni pubbliche, le aziende e il pubblico si sono uniti ai social media, che hanno permesso alle persone di interagire al di là delle distanze fisiche. Ma gli aspetti negativi sono ormai chiari, dice Sánchez, paragonandoli a "invasori nascosti nel corpo di un cavallo di Troia". Sánchez si è scagliato contro i tecno miliardari, affermando che si è verificata una concentrazione di ricchezza e potere nelle mani di pochi, "a scapito della nostra salute mentale e delle nostre democrazie". A. https://www.rainews.it/articoli/2025/01/davos-pedro-sanchez-i-tecno-miliard… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCDD2pwe5O4

Jan. 24, 2025

Re: [nexa] Trump lauds $500BN ‘Stargate’ AI project and slashes Biden tech regulations - The Washington Post

by Marco A. Calamari

On gio, 2025-01-23 at 12:00 +0100, alessandro marzocchi wrote: > In concreto, cosa suggerisci? > Cordialmente, Duccio In concreto di parlare (anche) di riduzione del danno (accettando l'inevitabile) invece che solo di futuribile ed ipotetica eliminazione del danno. Ti faccio un esempio. Opporsi alle LAWS in linea di principio adesso è inutile; gli arsenali delle principali potenze ne sono già dotati. Far venir fuori questo fatto, invece, e porre la questione di utilizzo, è un tentativo di limitazione del danno. JM2C. Ciao a tutti. Marco > Il giorno gio 23 gen 2025 alle ore 11:44 Marco A. Calamari > <marcoc_maillist(a)marcoc.it> ha scritto: > > On gio, 2025-01-23 at 11:29 +0100, alessandro marzocchi wrote: > > > Concordo: ci vuole un modello di sviluppo europeo ben supportato da > > > politiche einvestimenti. > > > > > > Buongiorno a tutti. > > > > > > > > E' vero, sognare è lecito e comprensibile. > > > > Ma in realtà bisogna invece semplicemente prepararsi al peggio, cercando di > > prevederlo per limitare i danni. > > > > Altrimenti significa delirio di onnipotenza.... > > > > JM2C. Marco > > > > > > > Cordialmente, Duccio (Alessandro Marzocchi) > > > PS > > > c'è già chi ha mandato Trump a quel paese [1], l'europarlamentare di > > > estrema destra Anders Vistisen[2] > > > [1]https://www.repubblica.it/esteri/2025/01/22/video/anders_vistisen_eurod > > > eputato_danese_insulta_trump_alleuroparlamento-423954612/ > > > [2]https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/124875/ANDERS_VISTISEN/home > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 09:06:20 +0100 > > > > From: Guido Vetere <vetere.guido(a)gmail.com> > > > > Subject: Re: [nexa] Trump lauds $500BN ‘Stargate’ AI project and > > > > slashes Biden tech regulations - The Washington Post > > > > > > > > C'è qualcuno - namely: Altman - perfino più pazzo di Musk. > > > > Immaginiamo che spendano tutti i dollari del mondo in un datacenter > > > > grosso come la Groenlandia (dopo l'annessione). > > > > Alla fine cosa otterranno? I limiti della ragione, umana o automatica > > > > che sia, sono invalicabili tanto quanto quelli fisici. > > > > L'umanità consiste proprio nello stare dentro questi limiti, ed anche > > > > l'AI è utile finché li rispetta. > > > > Questo è il momento buono per mandare gli yankee pazzi a quel paese. > > > > Certo, ci vorrà qualcosa di più di quel ditino alzato che si chiama AI > > > > Act. > > > > Ci vorrà un modello di sviluppo europeo ben supportato da politiche e > > > > investimenti. > > > > > > > > Buona giornata, > > > > G. > > > > > > > > On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 at 14:25, Alberto Cammozzo via nexa > > > > <nexa(a)server-nexa.polito.it> wrote: > > > > > Trump’s AI policy moves on his first two days in office and remarks at > > > > > the White House on Tuesday showed him positioning himself as a strong > > > > > supporter of the U.S. tech industry — while turning away from the > > > > > Biden administration’s stance that AI technology requires both support > > > > > and oversight. Biden’s executive order, some of which has been > > > > > implemented by changes at federal agencies, focused on preventing > > > > > risks such as algorithms that spread bias or AI assistants that could > > > > > help terrorists build bioweapons. > > > > > > > > > > “AI seems to be very hot,” Trump said at the White House on Tuesday. > > > > > “It seems to be the thing that a lot of smart people are looking at > > > > > very strongly.” > > > > > > > > > > Trump was joined by OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, Oracle Chairman Larry > > > > > Ellison and SoftBank CEO Masayoshi Son who announced “Stargate,” a > > > > > joint venture that will seek to spend as much as $500 billion over the > > > > > next four years to build as many as 20 new data centers to support AI > > > > > projects. > > > > > > > > > > The warehouselike facilities, stuffed with thousands of powerful and > > > > > electricity-guzzling computer chips, are essential to developing and > > > > > running AI software like that behind ChatGPT. A boom in data center > > > > > construction is straining the power grid in states across the United > > > > > States as companies including Microsoft, Google, Amazon and Meta have > > > > > spent billions of dollars on new facilities. But AI leaders such as > > > > > Altman say many more of the facilities must be built for AI technology > > > > > to keep advancing. > > > > > > > > > > “I think this will be the most important project of this era,” Altman > > > > > said at the White House on Tuesday. “We wouldn’t be able to do this > > > > > without you, Mr. President,” he said, turning to Trump. Son said that > > > > > SoftBank decided to move ahead with the Stargate project because of > > > > > Trump’s election victory. > > > > > > > > > > The $500 billion doesn’t include money from the federal government, > > > > > according to a person familiar with the project who spoke on the > > > > > condition of anonymity to describe plans that haven’t been made > > > > > public. In addition to the companies creating Stargate, Dubai > > > > > investment firm MGX, an investor in OpenAI, will contribute funding to > > > > > the project. Microsoft and semiconductor manufacturers ARM and Nvidia > > > > > will provide technology, OpenAI said in an announcement. > > > > > > > > > > Trump’s industry-friendly first moves on tech policy were not > > > > > unexpected. > > > > > > > > > > OpenAI has been working on Stargate for months, and its CEO Altman had > > > > > been pitching politicians on the idea of a major push to build up AI > > > > > infrastructure a year ago. > > > > > > > > > > Prominent Silicon Valley executives and investors, including some who > > > > > contributed to Trump’s reelection, had long railed against President > > > > > Joe Biden’s executive order instituting guardrails for AI technology. > > > > > > > > > > Although certain industry leaders like Altman said some regulation was > > > > > necessary, critics said the government would only get in the way of > > > > > the technology’s development and prevent smaller, younger companies > > > > > from being able to compete with more established ones. Months before > > > > > the election, Trump allies were already drafting an executive order of > > > > > their own that would review “unnecessary” regulations and launch > > > > > “Manhattan Projects” to develop military technology. > > > > > > > > > > Despite Trump’s more industry-friendly approach to AI, his emerging > > > > > policy is not a complete reversal of his predecessor’s. Biden in the > > > > > final days of his administration directed federal agencies to speed up > > > > > the development of AI data center projects on federal land. > > > > > > > > > > Trump said on Tuesday that he supported that policy. “That sounds to > > > > > me like it’s something that I would like. I’d like to see federal > > > > > lands opened up for data centers. I think they’re going to be very > > > > > important,” he said. > > > > > > > > > > Netchoice, a lobbying group with members including Google, Meta and > > > > > Amazon, welcomed Trump repeal of the Biden-era AI rules. “His orders > > > > > rolling back regulations on U.S. energy production and ending Biden’s > > > > > artificial intelligence (AI) red tape wishlist are critical for > > > > > America’s global leadership in technological development,” Netchoice > > > > > said in a post on X. Amazon founder Jeff Bezos owns The Washington > > > > > Post. > > > > > > > > > > Proponents of AI regulation have argued that it is needed not only to > > > > > ward off potential harms from the technology but also to support its > > > > > economic development and adoption by providing people with confidence > > > > > that AI is safe to use. > > > > > > > > > > “A politically-motivated repeal with no thoughtful replacement is > > > > > self-defeating for our country and dangerous for our people and the > > > > > world,” Alondra Nelson, a senior fellow at the Center for American > > > > > Progress, a liberal think tank, who also worked on technology policy > > > > > in the Biden administration, said in a statement. “This will leave the > > > > > American public unprotected from the risks and harms of AI and, > > > > > therefore, unable to take up the benefits it might bring.” > > > > > > > > > > Deborah Raji, a Mozilla fellow and AI researcher at the University of > > > > > California at Berkeley, said that the repeal of Biden’s executive > > > > > order, in combination with the Supreme Court curbing federal agencies’ > > > > > power to set and institute regulations last year and Trump’s ambitions > > > > > to empower business leaders, create a “Wild West era” for AI products. > > > > > “They’re going to be empowered to build models and throw them > > > > > everywhere, without a lot of regard to safety,” she said. > > > > > > > > > > AI companies have been spending huge amounts of money buying computer > > > > > chips and building new data centers to house them. The surge in data > > > > > center construction has also pushed up estimates for how much > > > > > electricity the U.S. will need to generate to power them, leading to > > > > > some coal power plants that had been slated to be closed to be kept > > > > > online. > > > > > > > > > >

Jan. 23, 2025

"Leaked documents expose deep ties between Israeli army and Microsoft"

by J.C. DE MARTIN

*Leaked documents expose deep ties between Israeli army and Microsoft * /Since Oct. 7, the Israeli military has relied heavily on cloud and AI services from Microsoft and its partner OpenAI, while the tech giant’s staff embed with different units to support rollout, a joint investigation reveals./ Yuval Abraham January 23, 2025 Microsoft has a “footprint in all major military infrastructures” in Israel, and sales of the company’s cloud and artificial intelligence services to the Israeli army have skyrocketed since the beginning of its onslaught on Gaza, according to leaked commercial records from Israel’s Defense Ministry and files from Microsoft’s Israeli subsidiary. The documents reveal that dozens of units in the Israeli army have purchased services from Microsoft’s cloud computing platform, Azure, in recent months — including units in the air, ground, and naval forces, as well as the elite intelligence squad, Unit 8200. Microsoft has also provided the military with extensive access to OpenAI’s GPT-4 language model, the engine behind ChatGPT, thanks to the close partnership between the two companies. These revelations are the product of an investigation by +972 Magazine and Local Call in collaboration with The Guardian. It is based in part on documents obtained by Drop Site News, which has published its own story. The investigation shows how the Israeli army deepened its reliance on civilian tech giants after October 7, and comes amid growing protests by cloud company employees who fear that the technology they developed has helped Israel commit war crimes. [...] continua qui: https://www.972mag.com/microsoft-azure-openai-israeli-army-cloud/

Jan. 23, 2025

Proposta [Era: Trump laud....]

by Damiano Verzulli

Il 23/01/25 12:00 PM, alessandro marzocchi ha scritto: > In concreto, cosa suggerisci? Dico la mia, pur non chiamato in causa. Mi sembra un tempismo perfetto per, ad esempio, stilare un sintetico "manifesto" (1 x A4) che NEXA (il Centro NEXA), supportato dai membri della sua community (chi, in questa lista, vuole metterci nome e cognome), indirizza principalmente a tutti gli Enti di Ricerca (in primis, Atenei [....perché hanno 'studenti'; non per altro]) proponendo loro, sulla falsariga di quanto fatto altrove, in Europa, di abbandonare i social USA + tirare su istanze mastodon dedicate (vedi esperienza di SURF, in Olanda), offrendosi di supportate l'installazione dei software (attraverso tool di automazione open-source e ultra-collaudati) e, in subordine, di supportare i tecnici periferici nel setup materiale. Chiaramente Nexa dovrebbe eliminare i propri account e... far partire un'istanza mastodon....preliminarmente... altrimenti la cosa non ha molto senso (tendenzialmente, qui, siamo fra persone serie e coerenti. Quindi, predicare bene e razzolare male, non è una opzione). Vantaggi: ne vedo tantissimi. Rischi: praticamente nessuno. Se tutto va bene: abbiamo fatto goal. Se tutto va male... abbiamo buttato un po' di tempo, senza conseguenze (e comunque, un epsilon del tempo passato a processare la lista...) Follia? Saluti, DV > Cordialmente, Duccio > > Il giorno gio 23 gen 2025 alle ore 11:44 Marco A. Calamari > <marcoc_maillist(a)marcoc.it> ha scritto: > > On gio, 2025-01-23 at 11:29 +0100, alessandro marzocchi wrote: >> Concordo: *c**i vuole un modello di sviluppo europeo ben >> supportato da politiche einvestimenti.* > > Buongiorno a tutti. > > E' vero, sognare è lecito e comprensibile. > > Ma in realtà bisogna invece semplicemente prepararsi al peggio, > cercando di prevederlo per limitare i danni. > > Altrimenti significa delirio di onnipotenza.... > > JM2C. Marco > > >> Cordialmente, Duccio (Alessandro Marzocchi) >> PS >> c'è già chi ha mandato Trump a quel paese [1], l'europarlamentare >> di estrema destra Anders Vistisen[2] >> [1]https://www.repubblica.it/esteri/2025/01/22/video/anders_vistisen_eurodeputato_danese_insulta_trump_alleuroparlamento-423954612/ >> [2]https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/124875/ANDERS_VISTISEN/home >> >>> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 09:06:20 +0100 >>> From: Guido Vetere <vetere.guido(a)gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [nexa] Trump lauds $500BN ‘Stargate’ AI project and >>> slashes Biden tech regulations - The Washington Post >>> >>> C'è qualcuno - namely: Altman - perfino più pazzo di Musk. >>> Immaginiamo che spendano tutti i dollari del mondo in un datacenter >>> grosso come la Groenlandia (dopo l'annessione). >>> Alla fine cosa otterranno? I limiti della ragione, umana o >>> automatica >>> che sia, sono invalicabili tanto quanto quelli fisici. >>> L'umanità consiste proprio nello stare dentro questi limiti, ed >>> anche >>> l'AI è utile finché li rispetta. >>> Questo è il momento buono per mandare gli yankee pazzi a quel paese. >>> Certo, ci vorrà qualcosa di più di quel ditino alzato che si >>> chiama AI Act. >>> Ci vorrà un modello di sviluppo europeo ben supportato da >>> politiche e >>> investimenti. >>> >>> Buona giornata, >>> G. >>> >>> On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 at 14:25, Alberto Cammozzo via nexa >>> <nexa(a)server-nexa.polito.it> wrote: >>> > Trump’s AI policy moves on his first two days in office and >>> remarks at the White House on Tuesday showed him positioning >>> himself as a strong supporter of the U.S. tech industry — while >>> turning away from the Biden administration’s stance that AI >>> technology requires both support and oversight. Biden’s >>> executive order, some of which has been implemented by changes >>> at federal agencies, focused on preventing risks such as >>> algorithms that spread bias or AI assistants that could help >>> terrorists build bioweapons. >>> > >>> > “AI seems to be very hot,” Trump said at the White House on >>> Tuesday. “It seems to be the thing that a lot of smart people >>> are looking at very strongly.” >>> > >>> > Trump was joined by OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, Oracle Chairman >>> Larry Ellison and SoftBank CEO Masayoshi Son who announced >>> “Stargate,” a joint venture that will seek to spend as much as >>> $500 billion over the next four years to build as many as 20 new >>> data centers to support AI projects. >>> > >>> > The warehouselike facilities, stuffed with thousands of >>> powerful and electricity-guzzling computer chips, are essential >>> to developing and running AI software like that behind ChatGPT. >>> A boom in data center construction is straining the power grid >>> in states across the United States as companies including >>> Microsoft, Google, Amazon and Meta have spent billions of >>> dollars on new facilities. But AI leaders such as Altman say >>> many more of the facilities must be built for AI technology to >>> keep advancing. >>> > >>> > “I think this will be the most important project of this era,” >>> Altman said at the White House on Tuesday. “We wouldn’t be able >>> to do this without you, Mr. President,” he said, turning to >>> Trump. Son said that SoftBank decided to move ahead with the >>> Stargate project because of Trump’s election victory. >>> > >>> > The $500 billion doesn’t include money from the federal >>> government, according to a person familiar with the project who >>> spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe plans that >>> haven’t been made public. In addition to the companies creating >>> Stargate, Dubai investment firm MGX, an investor in OpenAI, will >>> contribute funding to the project. Microsoft and semiconductor >>> manufacturers ARM and Nvidia will provide technology, OpenAI >>> said in an announcement. >>> > >>> > Trump’s industry-friendly first moves on tech policy were not >>> unexpected. >>> > >>> > OpenAI has been working on Stargate for months, and its CEO >>> Altman had been pitching politicians on the idea of a major push >>> to build up AI infrastructure a year ago. >>> > >>> > Prominent Silicon Valley executives and investors, including >>> some who contributed to Trump’s reelection, had long railed >>> against President Joe Biden’s executive order instituting >>> guardrails for AI technology. >>> > >>> > Although certain industry leaders like Altman said some >>> regulation was necessary, critics said the government would only >>> get in the way of the technology’s development and prevent >>> smaller, younger companies from being able to compete with more >>> established ones. Months before the election, Trump allies were >>> already drafting an executive order of their own that would >>> review “unnecessary” regulations and launch “Manhattan Projects” >>> to develop military technology. >>> > >>> > Despite Trump’s more industry-friendly approach to AI, his >>> emerging policy is not a complete reversal of his predecessor’s. >>> Biden in the final days of his administration directed federal >>> agencies to speed up the development of AI data center projects >>> on federal land. >>> > >>> > Trump said on Tuesday that he supported that policy. “That >>> sounds to me like it’s something that I would like. I’d like to >>> see federal lands opened up for data centers. I think they’re >>> going to be very important,” he said. >>> > >>> > Netchoice, a lobbying group with members including Google, >>> Meta and Amazon, welcomed Trump repeal of the Biden-era AI >>> rules. “His orders rolling back regulations on U.S. energy >>> production and ending Biden’s artificial intelligence (AI) red >>> tape wishlist are critical for America’s global leadership in >>> technological development,” Netchoice said in a post on X. >>> Amazon founder Jeff Bezos owns The Washington Post. >>> > >>> > Proponents of AI regulation have argued that it is needed not >>> only to ward off potential harms from the technology but also to >>> support its economic development and adoption by providing >>> people with confidence that AI is safe to use. >>> > >>> > “A politically-motivated repeal with no thoughtful replacement >>> is self-defeating for our country and dangerous for our people >>> and the world,” Alondra Nelson, a senior fellow at the Center >>> for American Progress, a liberal think tank, who also worked on >>> technology policy in the Biden administration, said in a >>> statement. “This will leave the American public unprotected from >>> the risks and harms of AI and, therefore, unable to take up the >>> benefits it might bring.” >>> > >>> > Deborah Raji, a Mozilla fellow and AI researcher at the >>> University of California at Berkeley, said that the repeal of >>> Biden’s executive order, in combination with the Supreme Court >>> curbing federal agencies’ power to set and institute regulations >>> last year and Trump’s ambitions to empower business leaders, >>> create a “Wild West era” for AI products. “They’re going to be >>> empowered to build models and throw them everywhere, without a >>> lot of regard to safety,” she said. >>> > >>> > AI companies have been spending huge amounts of money buying >>> computer chips and building new data centers to house them. The >>> surge in data center construction has also pushed up estimates >>> for how much electricity the U.S. will need to generate to power >>> them, leading to some coal power plants that had been slated to >>> be closed to be kept online. >>> > > > -- > > Marco A. Calamari <marcoc_maillist(a)marcoc.it> > -- Damiano Verzulli e-mail:damiano@verzulli.it --- possible?ok:while(!possible){open_mindedness++} --- "...I realized that free software would not generate the kind of income that was needed. Maybe in USA or Europe, you may be able to get a well paying job as a free software developer, but not here [in Africa]..." -- Guido Sohne - 1973-2008 http://ole.kenic.or.ke/pipermail/skunkworks/2008-April/005989.html

Jan. 23, 2025

US Cloud soon illegal? Trump punches first hole in EU-US Data Deal.

by Giacomo Tesio

Since the Snowden disclosures we know that the US engages in mass surveillance of EU users by scooping up personal data from US Big Tech. The "Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board" (PCLOB) is the key US oversight authority for these laws. The New York Times now reports, that Democratic Members of the (officially "independent") PCLOB, have received letters, demanding them to resign by Friday night. This would bring the number of appointed Members below the threshold to have PCLOB operate and question the independence of all other executive redress bodies in the US. The European Union has relied on these US boards and tribunals to find that the US provides "adequate" protection of personal data. Relying on PCLOB and other mechanisms, the European Commission allows European personal data to flow freely to the US in the so-called "Transatlantic Data Privacy Framework" (TADPF). Thousands of EU businesses, government agencies or schools rely on these provisions. Without TADPF, they would need to stop using US Cloud Providers like Apple, Google, Microsoft or Amazon instantly. Continua su <https://noyb.eu/en/us-cloud-soon-illegal-trump-punches-first-hole-eu-us-dat…> Giacomo

Jan. 23, 2025

Re: [nexa] Trump lauds $500BN ‘Stargate’ AI project and slashes Biden tech regulations - The Washington Post

by Michele Orrù

La dama di corte ha negato la smentita del vicepresidente [image: Screenshot 2025-01-23 at 12.48.11.png] On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 9:54 AM Claudio Agosti < claudio.agosti(a)hermescenter.org> wrote: > il vice presidente ha smentito, ma forse è gelosia. seguitemi su *novella2077 > - gossip cyberpunk * > > > > > > On Thu, 23 Jan 2025, 09:06 Guido Vetere, <vetere.guido(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> C'è qualcuno - namely: Altman - perfino più pazzo di Musk. >> >> >>

Jan. 23, 2025

Re: [nexa] Trump lauds $500BN ‘Stargate’ AI project and slashes Biden tech regulations - The Washington Post

by alessandro marzocchi

In concreto, cosa suggerisci? Cordialmente, Duccio Il giorno gio 23 gen 2025 alle ore 11:44 Marco A. Calamari < marcoc_maillist(a)marcoc.it> ha scritto: > On gio, 2025-01-23 at 11:29 +0100, alessandro marzocchi wrote: > > Concordo: *c**i vuole un modello di sviluppo europeo ben supportato da > politiche einvestimenti.* > > > Buongiorno a tutti. > > > E' vero, sognare è lecito e comprensibile. > > Ma in realtà bisogna invece semplicemente prepararsi al peggio, cercando > di prevederlo per limitare i danni. > > Altrimenti significa delirio di onnipotenza.... > > JM2C. Marco > > > Cordialmente, Duccio (Alessandro Marzocchi) > PS > c'è già chi ha mandato Trump a quel paese [1], l'europarlamentare di > estrema destra Anders Vistisen[2] > [1] > https://www.repubblica.it/esteri/2025/01/22/video/anders_vistisen_eurodeput… > [2]https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/124875/ANDERS_VISTISEN/home > > > > Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 09:06:20 +0100 > From: Guido Vetere <vetere.guido(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [nexa] Trump lauds $500BN ‘Stargate’ AI project and > slashes Biden tech regulations - The Washington Post > > C'è qualcuno - namely: Altman - perfino più pazzo di Musk. > Immaginiamo che spendano tutti i dollari del mondo in un datacenter > grosso come la Groenlandia (dopo l'annessione). > Alla fine cosa otterranno? I limiti della ragione, umana o automatica > che sia, sono invalicabili tanto quanto quelli fisici. > L'umanità consiste proprio nello stare dentro questi limiti, ed anche > l'AI è utile finché li rispetta. > Questo è il momento buono per mandare gli yankee pazzi a quel paese. > Certo, ci vorrà qualcosa di più di quel ditino alzato che si chiama AI Act. > Ci vorrà un modello di sviluppo europeo ben supportato da politiche e > investimenti. > > Buona giornata, > G. > > On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 at 14:25, Alberto Cammozzo via nexa > <nexa(a)server-nexa.polito.it> wrote: > > Trump’s AI policy moves on his first two days in office and remarks at > the White House on Tuesday showed him positioning himself as a strong > supporter of the U.S. tech industry — while turning away from the Biden > administration’s stance that AI technology requires both support and > oversight. Biden’s executive order, some of which has been implemented by > changes at federal agencies, focused on preventing risks such as algorithms > that spread bias or AI assistants that could help terrorists build > bioweapons. > > > > “AI seems to be very hot,” Trump said at the White House on Tuesday. “It > seems to be the thing that a lot of smart people are looking at very > strongly.” > > > > Trump was joined by OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, Oracle Chairman Larry Ellison > and SoftBank CEO Masayoshi Son who announced “Stargate,” a joint venture > that will seek to spend as much as $500 billion over the next four years to > build as many as 20 new data centers to support AI projects. > > > > The warehouselike facilities, stuffed with thousands of powerful and > electricity-guzzling computer chips, are essential to developing and > running AI software like that behind ChatGPT. A boom in data center > construction is straining the power grid in states across the United States > as companies including Microsoft, Google, Amazon and Meta have spent > billions of dollars on new facilities. But AI leaders such as Altman say > many more of the facilities must be built for AI technology to keep > advancing. > > > > “I think this will be the most important project of this era,” Altman > said at the White House on Tuesday. “We wouldn’t be able to do this without > you, Mr. President,” he said, turning to Trump. Son said that SoftBank > decided to move ahead with the Stargate project because of Trump’s election > victory. > > > > The $500 billion doesn’t include money from the federal government, > according to a person familiar with the project who spoke on the condition > of anonymity to describe plans that haven’t been made public. In addition > to the companies creating Stargate, Dubai investment firm MGX, an investor > in OpenAI, will contribute funding to the project. Microsoft and > semiconductor manufacturers ARM and Nvidia will provide technology, OpenAI > said in an announcement. > > > > Trump’s industry-friendly first moves on tech policy were not unexpected. > > > > OpenAI has been working on Stargate for months, and its CEO Altman had > been pitching politicians on the idea of a major push to build up AI > infrastructure a year ago. > > > > Prominent Silicon Valley executives and investors, including some who > contributed to Trump’s reelection, had long railed against President Joe > Biden’s executive order instituting guardrails for AI technology. > > > > Although certain industry leaders like Altman said some regulation was > necessary, critics said the government would only get in the way of the > technology’s development and prevent smaller, younger companies from being > able to compete with more established ones. Months before the election, > Trump allies were already drafting an executive order of their own that > would review “unnecessary” regulations and launch “Manhattan Projects” to > develop military technology. > > > > Despite Trump’s more industry-friendly approach to AI, his emerging > policy is not a complete reversal of his predecessor’s. Biden in the final > days of his administration directed federal agencies to speed up the > development of AI data center projects on federal land. > > > > Trump said on Tuesday that he supported that policy. “That sounds to me > like it’s something that I would like. I’d like to see federal lands opened > up for data centers. I think they’re going to be very important,” he said. > > > > Netchoice, a lobbying group with members including Google, Meta and > Amazon, welcomed Trump repeal of the Biden-era AI rules. “His orders > rolling back regulations on U.S. energy production and ending Biden’s > artificial intelligence (AI) red tape wishlist are critical for America’s > global leadership in technological development,” Netchoice said in a post > on X. Amazon founder Jeff Bezos owns The Washington Post. > > > > Proponents of AI regulation have argued that it is needed not only to > ward off potential harms from the technology but also to support its > economic development and adoption by providing people with confidence that > AI is safe to use. > > > > “A politically-motivated repeal with no thoughtful replacement is > self-defeating for our country and dangerous for our people and the world,” > Alondra Nelson, a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress, a > liberal think tank, who also worked on technology policy in the Biden > administration, said in a statement. “This will leave the American public > unprotected from the risks and harms of AI and, therefore, unable to take > up the benefits it might bring.” > > > > Deborah Raji, a Mozilla fellow and AI researcher at the University of > California at Berkeley, said that the repeal of Biden’s executive order, in > combination with the Supreme Court curbing federal agencies’ power to set > and institute regulations last year and Trump’s ambitions to empower > business leaders, create a “Wild West era” for AI products. “They’re going > to be empowered to build models and throw them everywhere, without a lot of > regard to safety,” she said. > > > > AI companies have been spending huge amounts of money buying computer > chips and building new data centers to house them. The surge in data center > construction has also pushed up estimates for how much electricity the U.S. > will need to generate to power them, leading to some coal power plants that > had been slated to be closed to be kept online. > > > > -- > > Marco A. Calamari <marcoc_maillist(a)marcoc.it> >

Jan. 23, 2025

Re: [nexa] Trump lauds $500BN ‘Stargate’ AI project and slashes Biden tech regulations - The Washington Post

by Marco A. Calamari

On gio, 2025-01-23 at 11:29 +0100, alessandro marzocchi wrote: > Concordo: ci vuole un modello di sviluppo europeo ben supportato da politiche > einvestimenti. Buongiorno a tutti. E' vero, sognare è lecito e comprensibile. Ma in realtà bisogna invece semplicemente prepararsi al peggio, cercando di prevederlo per limitare i danni. Altrimenti significa delirio di onnipotenza.... JM2C. Marco > Cordialmente, Duccio (Alessandro Marzocchi) > > PS > c'è già chi ha mandato Trump a quel paese [1], l'europarlamentare di estrema > destra Anders Vistisen[2] > [1] > https://www.repubblica.it/esteri/2025/01/22/video/anders_vistisen_eurodeput… > [2]https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/124875/ANDERS_VISTISEN/home > > > > Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 09:06:20 +0100 > > From: Guido Vetere <vetere.guido(a)gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [nexa] Trump lauds $500BN ‘Stargate’ AI project and > > slashes Biden tech regulations - The Washington Post > > > > C'è qualcuno - namely: Altman - perfino più pazzo di Musk. > > Immaginiamo che spendano tutti i dollari del mondo in un datacenter > > grosso come la Groenlandia (dopo l'annessione). > > Alla fine cosa otterranno? I limiti della ragione, umana o automatica > > che sia, sono invalicabili tanto quanto quelli fisici. > > L'umanità consiste proprio nello stare dentro questi limiti, ed anche > > l'AI è utile finché li rispetta. > > Questo è il momento buono per mandare gli yankee pazzi a quel paese. > > Certo, ci vorrà qualcosa di più di quel ditino alzato che si chiama AI Act. > > Ci vorrà un modello di sviluppo europeo ben supportato da politiche e > > investimenti. > > > > Buona giornata, > > G. > > > > On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 at 14:25, Alberto Cammozzo via nexa > > <nexa(a)server-nexa.polito.it> wrote: > > > Trump’s AI policy moves on his first two days in office and remarks at the > > White House on Tuesday showed him positioning himself as a strong supporter > > of the U.S. tech industry — while turning away from the Biden > > administration’s stance that AI technology requires both support and > > oversight. Biden’s executive order, some of which has been implemented by > > changes at federal agencies, focused on preventing risks such as algorithms > > that spread bias or AI assistants that could help terrorists build > > bioweapons. > > > > > > “AI seems to be very hot,” Trump said at the White House on Tuesday. “It > > seems to be the thing that a lot of smart people are looking at very > > strongly.” > > > > > > Trump was joined by OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, Oracle Chairman Larry Ellison > > and SoftBank CEO Masayoshi Son who announced “Stargate,” a joint venture > > that will seek to spend as much as $500 billion over the next four years to > > build as many as 20 new data centers to support AI projects. > > > > > > The warehouselike facilities, stuffed with thousands of powerful and > > electricity-guzzling computer chips, are essential to developing and running > > AI software like that behind ChatGPT. A boom in data center construction is > > straining the power grid in states across the United States as companies > > including Microsoft, Google, Amazon and Meta have spent billions of dollars > > on new facilities. But AI leaders such as Altman say many more of the > > facilities must be built for AI technology to keep advancing. > > > > > > “I think this will be the most important project of this era,” Altman said > > at the White House on Tuesday. “We wouldn’t be able to do this without you, > > Mr. President,” he said, turning to Trump. Son said that SoftBank decided to > > move ahead with the Stargate project because of Trump’s election victory. > > > > > > The $500 billion doesn’t include money from the federal government, > > according to a person familiar with the project who spoke on the condition > > of anonymity to describe plans that haven’t been made public. In addition to > > the companies creating Stargate, Dubai investment firm MGX, an investor in > > OpenAI, will contribute funding to the project. Microsoft and semiconductor > > manufacturers ARM and Nvidia will provide technology, OpenAI said in an > > announcement. > > > > > > Trump’s industry-friendly first moves on tech policy were not unexpected. > > > > > > OpenAI has been working on Stargate for months, and its CEO Altman had > > been pitching politicians on the idea of a major push to build up AI > > infrastructure a year ago. > > > > > > Prominent Silicon Valley executives and investors, including some who > > contributed to Trump’s reelection, had long railed against President Joe > > Biden’s executive order instituting guardrails for AI technology. > > > > > > Although certain industry leaders like Altman said some regulation was > > necessary, critics said the government would only get in the way of the > > technology’s development and prevent smaller, younger companies from being > > able to compete with more established ones. Months before the election, > > Trump allies were already drafting an executive order of their own that > > would review “unnecessary” regulations and launch “Manhattan Projects” to > > develop military technology. > > > > > > Despite Trump’s more industry-friendly approach to AI, his emerging policy > > is not a complete reversal of his predecessor’s. Biden in the final days of > > his administration directed federal agencies to speed up the development of > > AI data center projects on federal land. > > > > > > Trump said on Tuesday that he supported that policy. “That sounds to me > > like it’s something that I would like. I’d like to see federal lands opened > > up for data centers. I think they’re going to be very important,” he said. > > > > > > Netchoice, a lobbying group with members including Google, Meta and > > Amazon, welcomed Trump repeal of the Biden-era AI rules. “His orders rolling > > back regulations on U.S. energy production and ending Biden’s artificial > > intelligence (AI) red tape wishlist are critical for America’s global > > leadership in technological development,” Netchoice said in a post on X. > > Amazon founder Jeff Bezos owns The Washington Post. > > > > > > Proponents of AI regulation have argued that it is needed not only to ward > > off potential harms from the technology but also to support its economic > > development and adoption by providing people with confidence that AI is safe > > to use. > > > > > > “A politically-motivated repeal with no thoughtful replacement is self- > > defeating for our country and dangerous for our people and the world,” > > Alondra Nelson, a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress, a > > liberal think tank, who also worked on technology policy in the Biden > > administration, said in a statement. “This will leave the American public > > unprotected from the risks and harms of AI and, therefore, unable to take up > > the benefits it might bring.” > > > > > > Deborah Raji, a Mozilla fellow and AI researcher at the University of > > California at Berkeley, said that the repeal of Biden’s executive order, in > > combination with the Supreme Court curbing federal agencies’ power to set > > and institute regulations last year and Trump’s ambitions to empower > > business leaders, create a “Wild West era” for AI products. “They’re going > > to be empowered to build models and throw them everywhere, without a lot of > > regard to safety,” she said. > > > > > > AI companies have been spending huge amounts of money buying computer > > chips and building new data centers to house them. The surge in data center > > construction has also pushed up estimates for how much electricity the U.S. > > will need to generate to power them, leading to some coal power plants that > > had been slated to be closed to be kept online. > > -- Marco A. Calamari <marcoc_maillist(a)marcoc.it>

Jan. 23, 2025

Re: [nexa] Trump lauds $500BN ‘Stargate’ AI project and slashes Biden tech regulations - The Washington Post

by alessandro marzocchi

Concordo: *c**i vuole un modello di sviluppo europeo ben supportato da politiche e investimenti.* Cordialmente, Duccio (Alessandro Marzocchi) PS c'è già chi ha mandato Trump a quel paese [1], l'europarlamentare di estrema destra Anders Vistisen [2] [1] https://www.repubblica.it/esteri/2025/01/22/video/anders_vistisen_eurodeput… [2] https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/124875/ANDERS_VISTISEN/home > Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 09:06:20 +0100 > From: Guido Vetere <vetere.guido(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [nexa] Trump lauds $500BN ‘Stargate’ AI project and > slashes Biden tech regulations - The Washington Post > > C'è qualcuno - namely: Altman - perfino più pazzo di Musk. > Immaginiamo che spendano tutti i dollari del mondo in un datacenter > grosso come la Groenlandia (dopo l'annessione). > Alla fine cosa otterranno? I limiti della ragione, umana o automatica > che sia, sono invalicabili tanto quanto quelli fisici. > L'umanità consiste proprio nello stare dentro questi limiti, ed anche > l'AI è utile finché li rispetta. > Questo è il momento buono per mandare gli yankee pazzi a quel paese. > Certo, ci vorrà qualcosa di più di quel ditino alzato che si chiama AI Act. > Ci vorrà un modello di sviluppo europeo ben supportato da politiche e > investimenti. > > Buona giornata, > G. > > On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 at 14:25, Alberto Cammozzo via nexa > <nexa(a)server-nexa.polito.it> wrote: > > Trump’s AI policy moves on his first two days in office and remarks at > the White House on Tuesday showed him positioning himself as a strong > supporter of the U.S. tech industry — while turning away from the Biden > administration’s stance that AI technology requires both support and > oversight. Biden’s executive order, some of which has been implemented by > changes at federal agencies, focused on preventing risks such as algorithms > that spread bias or AI assistants that could help terrorists build > bioweapons. > > > > “AI seems to be very hot,” Trump said at the White House on Tuesday. “It > seems to be the thing that a lot of smart people are looking at very > strongly.” > > > > Trump was joined by OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, Oracle Chairman Larry Ellison > and SoftBank CEO Masayoshi Son who announced “Stargate,” a joint venture > that will seek to spend as much as $500 billion over the next four years to > build as many as 20 new data centers to support AI projects. > > > > The warehouselike facilities, stuffed with thousands of powerful and > electricity-guzzling computer chips, are essential to developing and > running AI software like that behind ChatGPT. A boom in data center > construction is straining the power grid in states across the United States > as companies including Microsoft, Google, Amazon and Meta have spent > billions of dollars on new facilities. But AI leaders such as Altman say > many more of the facilities must be built for AI technology to keep > advancing. > > > > “I think this will be the most important project of this era,” Altman > said at the White House on Tuesday. “We wouldn’t be able to do this without > you, Mr. President,” he said, turning to Trump. Son said that SoftBank > decided to move ahead with the Stargate project because of Trump’s election > victory. > > > > The $500 billion doesn’t include money from the federal government, > according to a person familiar with the project who spoke on the condition > of anonymity to describe plans that haven’t been made public. In addition > to the companies creating Stargate, Dubai investment firm MGX, an investor > in OpenAI, will contribute funding to the project. Microsoft and > semiconductor manufacturers ARM and Nvidia will provide technology, OpenAI > said in an announcement. > > > > Trump’s industry-friendly first moves on tech policy were not unexpected. > > > > OpenAI has been working on Stargate for months, and its CEO Altman had > been pitching politicians on the idea of a major push to build up AI > infrastructure a year ago. > > > > Prominent Silicon Valley executives and investors, including some who > contributed to Trump’s reelection, had long railed against President Joe > Biden’s executive order instituting guardrails for AI technology. > > > > Although certain industry leaders like Altman said some regulation was > necessary, critics said the government would only get in the way of the > technology’s development and prevent smaller, younger companies from being > able to compete with more established ones. Months before the election, > Trump allies were already drafting an executive order of their own that > would review “unnecessary” regulations and launch “Manhattan Projects” to > develop military technology. > > > > Despite Trump’s more industry-friendly approach to AI, his emerging > policy is not a complete reversal of his predecessor’s. Biden in the final > days of his administration directed federal agencies to speed up the > development of AI data center projects on federal land. > > > > Trump said on Tuesday that he supported that policy. “That sounds to me > like it’s something that I would like. I’d like to see federal lands opened > up for data centers. I think they’re going to be very important,” he said. > > > > Netchoice, a lobbying group with members including Google, Meta and > Amazon, welcomed Trump repeal of the Biden-era AI rules. “His orders > rolling back regulations on U.S. energy production and ending Biden’s > artificial intelligence (AI) red tape wishlist are critical for America’s > global leadership in technological development,” Netchoice said in a post > on X. Amazon founder Jeff Bezos owns The Washington Post. > > > > Proponents of AI regulation have argued that it is needed not only to > ward off potential harms from the technology but also to support its > economic development and adoption by providing people with confidence that > AI is safe to use. > > > > “A politically-motivated repeal with no thoughtful replacement is > self-defeating for our country and dangerous for our people and the world,” > Alondra Nelson, a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress, a > liberal think tank, who also worked on technology policy in the Biden > administration, said in a statement. “This will leave the American public > unprotected from the risks and harms of AI and, therefore, unable to take > up the benefits it might bring.” > > > > Deborah Raji, a Mozilla fellow and AI researcher at the University of > California at Berkeley, said that the repeal of Biden’s executive order, in > combination with the Supreme Court curbing federal agencies’ power to set > and institute regulations last year and Trump’s ambitions to empower > business leaders, create a “Wild West era” for AI products. “They’re going > to be empowered to build models and throw them everywhere, without a lot of > regard to safety,” she said. > > > > AI companies have been spending huge amounts of money buying computer > chips and building new data centers to house them. The surge in data center > construction has also pushed up estimates for how much electricity the U.S. > will need to generate to power them, leading to some coal power plants that > had been slated to be closed to be kept online. > >

Jan. 23, 2025