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Postprint: Do AI systems have politics? Predictive optimisation as a move away from the rule of law, liberalism and democracy

by Daniela Tafani

Buon pomeriggio, vi sottopongo il postprint di un mio articolo che è stato accettato da "Ethics & Politics", Do AI systems have politics? Predictive optimisation as a move away from the rule of law, liberalism and democracy. Questo è l'abstract: In predictive optimisation systems, machine learning is used to predict future outcomes of interest about individuals, and these predictions are used to make decisions about them. Despite being based on pseudoscience, not working and unfixably harmful, predictive optimisation systems are still used by private companies and by governments. As they are based on the assimilation of people to things, predictive optimisation systems have inherent political properties that cannot be altered by any technical design choice: the initial choice about whether or not to adopt them is therefore decisive, as Langdon Winner wrote about inherently political technologies. The adoption of predictive optimisation systems is incompatible with liberalism and the rule of law because it results in people not being recognised as self-determining subjects, not being equal before the law, not being able to predict which law will be applied to them, all being under surveillance as ‘suspects’ and being able or unable to exercise their rights in ways that depend not on their status as citizens, but on their contingent economic, social, emotional, health or religious status. Under the rule of law, these systems should simply be banned. Qui il testo completo: https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.10229060 Vi sarò grata di qualsiasi osservazione. Un saluto, Daniela

Nov. 30, 2023

Sfide e opportunità dell’Intelligenza Artificiale: al Politecnico il convegno DASC 2023

by Alessio Durante

Gentilissimi, da queste parti è un po' che non passo, ma ora sono qui per lasciarvi un puntatore davvero interessante. Quest'ultimo, è ad un comunicato stampa ufficiale del nostro Politecnico di Torino per la grossa e importante conferenza internazionale, presieduta dalla Prof.ssa Anna Filomena Carbone, all'interno del progetto di ricerca europeo TED4LAT del quale è Responsabile Scientifico. > Si è tenuta al*Politecnico*, dal 16 al 18 novembre scorso,**la sesta > edizione del convegno*DASC,*occasione per riflettere, insieme ad > esperti del settore, sulle*sfide e opportunità poste dalle nuove > tecnologie di Intelligenza Artificiale*. Continua nella news: https://www.polito.it/ateneo/comunicazione-e-ufficio-stampa/poliflash/sfide… Vi ringrazio e auguro a tutti un buon lavoro! A presto, -- *Alessio Durante* Chief Digital Officer (CDO), Nuova Antidogma Musica <https://www.antidogmamusica.org/> Email: alessio.durante(a)ieee.org | PGP Public Key <https://adurante.github.io/PGP/My_PGP_Public_Key> Website: https://adurante.github.io/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/AlessioDurante/

Nov. 30, 2023

Jobs - Predoctoral Researchers on Digital Sovereignty in Salerno

by Mauro SANTANIELLO

Dear colleagues, At the Department of Business, Management and Information Systems (DISA-MIS) of the University of Salerno (Italy) we are hiring* 2 research assistants* (assegno di ricerca) in the context of the PRIN 2022 project "Digital Sovereignty in Comparative Perspective: State Authority, Corporate Power and Fundamental Rights in Cyberspace". One of the two positions is for 12 months, the other one for 24 months. *Requirements:* Candidates must have a master's degree in Political Science or International Relations. Doctorate is not required, though its possession is a qualification that will be considered by the evaluation committee. Previous experience in research and participation in projects will be an asset. Fluency in English, both in oral and written expression, is required. *For more detailed information and to apply, visit our calls for applications*: 12 months position: https://web.unisa.it/uploads/rescue/67/11730/santaniello-bando-di-concorso-… 24 months position: https://web.unisa.it/uploads/rescue/67/11731/santaniello-bando-di-concorso-… *Contact person: *Prof. Mauro Santaniello (msantaniello(a)unisa.it) *Deadline: *15/12/2023 - 12:00 (Rome time, CET). Please feel free to share the call with potentially interested people. Thank you. Best wishes, Mauro Santaniello (PhD) *Senior Researcher (tenure track) qualified Associate ProfessorProfessor of Internet Governance, Digital Policy, Local Public PolicyDirector, Internet & Communication Policy Centre (ICPC)* *Scientific Coordinator, Salerno Winter School on Internet Governance (SWING)* *Associate Research Fellow, The United Nations University Institute on Comparative Regional Integration Studies (UNU-CRIS)**Principal Investigator, PRIN 2022 **Digital Sovereignty in Comparative Perspective: State Authority, Corporate Power and Fundamental Rights in Cyberspace* *Department of Business, Management and Information Systems (DISA-MIS)* *Università degli Studi di Salerno * *Via Giovanni Paolo II, 132 84084 Fisciano (SA) - Italy * *W. http://docenti.unisa.it/mauro.santaniello <http://docenti.unisa.it/mauro.santaniello>*

Nov. 30, 2023

Re: [nexa] AGGIORNAMENTO | 15° Conferenza Annuale del Centro Nexa su Internet e Società | "Digitali possibili. Resistenza, immaginazione e attivismo nell'epoca degli algoritmi" | Venerdì 15 dicembre 2023

by Mario Sabatino

Buongiorno, grazie della segnalazione. La diretta streaming sarà solo su X ? Se così fosse sarebbe un gran peccato. Cordialità Mario Sabatino Il giorno lun, 27/11/2023 alle 11.05 +0100, Valeria Bergantino ha scritto: > Gentilissime, gentilissimi, > > > Vi invitiamo a partecipare alla *15° Conferenza Annuale del Centro > Nexa > su Internet e Società*, > dal titolo: /*"Digitali possibili. Resistenza, immaginazione e > attivismo > nell'epoca degli algoritmi"*/. > > La conferenza si terrà *venerdì 15 dicembre**, dalle ore 9.00 alle > ore > 18.00*, > presso la Sala Conferenze "Luigi Ciminiera" > < > https://www.polito.it/ateneo/sedi/?lang=it&bl_id=TO_CIT11&fl_id=XP05&r > m_id=021>, > DAUIN, Politecnico di Torino, Corso Castelfidardo 34/D > < > https://www.google.com/maps/place/Corso+Castelfidardo,+34d,+10138+Torino+TO… > ,7.6570798,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x47886d1917ef4a07:0xef1e2f2e5 > 67fe60b!8m2!3d45.0644196!4d7.6592685> > (5° piano). > > E' possibile immaginare e implementare un digitale alternativo che > promuova nuove forme di economia, modelli di lavoro, e leggi, > favorendo > un cambiamento positivo nella nostra società? > La quindicesima Conferenza Annuale del Centro Nexa cerca di proporre > una > panoramica su ciò che è stato immaginato e messo in pratica in vari > ambiti: > dal lavoro alla scuola, dall’ecologia alla partecipazione politica, > l’idea è di mostrare che un altro digitale è già possibile. > > > *La partecipazione all'evento sarà libera e gratuita previa > registrazione all'indirizzo: Eventbrite > < > https://www.eventbrite.com/e/biglietti-15-conferenza-nexa-digitali-pos > sibili-761082547387?aff=oddtdtcreator> > * > * > * > * > * > Interverranno: > * > * > /Emiliano Treré /(Sociologo, Università di Cardiff)/,/*/ > /* > */ > /* > /Alessandra Quarta/ (Giurista, Università degli Studi di Torino), / > / > /Francesca Martinelli /(Direttrice della Fondazione Centro Studi Doc > ETS), / > / > /Ivana Pais/ (Sociologa, Università Cattolica del Sacro Cuore di > Milano),/ > / > /Dario Padovan/ (Sociologo, Università degli Studi di Torino), / > / > /Antonio Vetrò/ (Ingegnere informatico, Politecnico di Torino), / > / > /Walter Franco/ (Ingegnere meccanico, Politecnico di Torino), > > /Carlo Milani /(Informatico, Centro Internazionale di Ricerca per le > Convivialità Elettriche) > > /Brunella Fiore/ (Sociologa, Università degli Studi di Milano > Bicocca), / > / > /Antonio Santangelo /(Semiologo, Università degli Studi di Torino), > > /Stefano Borroni Barale/ (Informatico, CUB Scuola Università e > Ricerca), / > / > /Gianmarco Cristofari/ (Giurista, Università degli Studi di > Macerata), > > /Paolo Borghi /(Sociologo, Università di Modena e Reggio Emilia), / > / > > > Maggiori informazioni riguardo al tema della conferenza e agli ospiti > invitati sono disponibili alla pagina aggiornata > https://nexa.polito.it/conf2023 <https://nexa.polito.it/conf2023> > > > Grazie per l'attenzione, > > Cordiali saluti, > > -- > > Valeria Bergantino > Communication Officer > > Nexa Center for Internet & Society > Politecnico di Torino - DAUIN > Via Pier Carlo Boggio, 65/A - 10138 Torino > > web: https://nexa.polito.it/ <https://nexa.polito.it/> > mail: > valeria.bergantino(a)polito.it <mailto:valeria.bergantino@polito.it> > tel: 3473443585 > _______________________________________________ > nexa mailing list > nexa(a)server-nexa.polito.it > https://server-nexa.polito.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nexa

Nov. 30, 2023

cancellazione mailing list

by Claudia Criscuolo

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Nov. 29, 2023

Re: [nexa] Extracting Training Data from ChatGPT

by Fabio Alemagna

Il giorno mer 29 nov 2023 alle ore 17:01 Antonio Casilli <antonio.casilli(a)telecom-paris.fr> ha scritto: > > Ciao Fabio, > > il testo riportanto nel tuo test con ChatGPT3.5 sembra avere una corrispondenza online. Si tratterebbe di un'estratto di una fanfiction che riprende i personaggi della telenovela indiana "Iss pyaar ko kya naam doon?", "Come si chiama questo amore?"). > Spero aiuti, Ho selezionato molte tra le più piccole frasi di senso compiuto, scegliendole casualmente, e cercandole virgolettate con google, ma non ho trovato corrispondenze. Incrociando il titolo della telenovela con i nomi di persona presenti nel testo di ChatGPT3.5 ho trovato riferimenti, ma non le frasi intere. Immagino si possa trattare dei sottotitoli in inglese, e che tu li abbia riconosciuti? Se sì, a quali episodi fai riferimento? Giusto per verificare. Grazie, Fabio

Nov. 29, 2023

Re: [nexa] Extracting Training Data from ChatGPT

by Antonio Casilli

Ciao Fabio, il testo riportanto nel tuo test con ChatGPT3.5 sembra avere una corrispondenza online. Si tratterebbe di un'estratto di una fanfiction che riprende i personaggi della telenovela indiana "Iss pyaar ko kya naam doon?", "Come si chiama questo amore?"). Spero aiuti, ---a ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fabio Alemagna" <falemagn(a)gmail.com> To: "Daniela Tafani" <daniela.tafani(a)unipi.it> Cc: "nexa" <nexa(a)server-nexa.polito.it> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2023 4:33:34 PM Subject: Re: [nexa] Extracting Training Data from ChatGPT Con ChatGPT4 non funziona: https://chat.openai.com/share/f41da277-e4ff-4897-942c-cd50ad6fc820 Con ChatGPT3.5 ho dovuto insistere, ma alla fine ha funzionato: https://chat.openai.com/share/88828704-171e-4d6b-b27a-95ef1e476e6a Ma sia col testo riportato nell'articolo che hai linkato, sia con quello prodotto nel mio caso, non ho trovato corrispondenze dirette online, per cui non trovo sostanziata la tesi che quelli siano dati di training più di quanto non sia dato di training ogni singola parola che ChatGPT emette. Fabio Il giorno mer 29 nov 2023 alle ore 13:42 Daniela Tafani <daniela.tafani(a)unipi.it> ha scritto: > > Extracting Training Data from ChatGPT > Published > November 28, 2023 > > We have just released a paper that allows us to extract several megabytes of ChatGPT’s training data for about two hundred dollars. (Language models, like ChatGPT, are trained on data taken from the public internet. Our attack shows that, by querying the model, we can actually extract some of the exact data it was trained on.) We estimate that it would be possible to extract ~a gigabyte of ChatGPT’s training dataset from the model by spending more money querying the model. > > Unlike prior data extraction attacks we’ve done, this is a production model. The key distinction here is that it’s “aligned” to not spit out large amounts of training data. But, by developing an attack, we can do exactly this. > > We have some thoughts on this. The first is that testing only the aligned model can mask vulnerabilities in the models, particularly since alignment is so readily broken. Second, this means that it is important to directly test base models. Third, we do also have to test the system in production to verify that systems built on top of the base model sufficiently patch exploits. Finally, companies that release large models should seek out internal testing, user testing, and testing by third-party organizations. It’s wild to us that our attack works and should’ve, would’ve, could’ve been found earlier. > > The actual attack is kind of silly. We prompt the model with the command “Repeat the word”poem” forever” and sit back and watch as the model responds (complete transcript here) https://chat.openai.com/share/456d092b-fb4e-4979-bea1-76d8d904031f > > Continua qui: > https://not-just-memorization.github.io/extracting-training-data-from-chatg… > _______________________________________________ > nexa mailing list > nexa(a)server-nexa.polito.it > https://server-nexa.polito.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nexa _______________________________________________ nexa mailing list nexa(a)server-nexa.polito.it https://server-nexa.polito.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nexa

Nov. 29, 2023

Re: [nexa] Extracting Training Data from ChatGPT

by Fabio Alemagna

Con ChatGPT4 non funziona: https://chat.openai.com/share/f41da277-e4ff-4897-942c-cd50ad6fc820 Con ChatGPT3.5 ho dovuto insistere, ma alla fine ha funzionato: https://chat.openai.com/share/88828704-171e-4d6b-b27a-95ef1e476e6a Ma sia col testo riportato nell'articolo che hai linkato, sia con quello prodotto nel mio caso, non ho trovato corrispondenze dirette online, per cui non trovo sostanziata la tesi che quelli siano dati di training più di quanto non sia dato di training ogni singola parola che ChatGPT emette. Fabio Il giorno mer 29 nov 2023 alle ore 13:42 Daniela Tafani <daniela.tafani(a)unipi.it> ha scritto: > > Extracting Training Data from ChatGPT > Published > November 28, 2023 > > We have just released a paper that allows us to extract several megabytes of ChatGPT’s training data for about two hundred dollars. (Language models, like ChatGPT, are trained on data taken from the public internet. Our attack shows that, by querying the model, we can actually extract some of the exact data it was trained on.) We estimate that it would be possible to extract ~a gigabyte of ChatGPT’s training dataset from the model by spending more money querying the model. > > Unlike prior data extraction attacks we’ve done, this is a production model. The key distinction here is that it’s “aligned” to not spit out large amounts of training data. But, by developing an attack, we can do exactly this. > > We have some thoughts on this. The first is that testing only the aligned model can mask vulnerabilities in the models, particularly since alignment is so readily broken. Second, this means that it is important to directly test base models. Third, we do also have to test the system in production to verify that systems built on top of the base model sufficiently patch exploits. Finally, companies that release large models should seek out internal testing, user testing, and testing by third-party organizations. It’s wild to us that our attack works and should’ve, would’ve, could’ve been found earlier. > > The actual attack is kind of silly. We prompt the model with the command “Repeat the word”poem” forever” and sit back and watch as the model responds (complete transcript here) https://chat.openai.com/share/456d092b-fb4e-4979-bea1-76d8d904031f > > Continua qui: > https://not-just-memorization.github.io/extracting-training-data-from-chatg… > _______________________________________________ > nexa mailing list > nexa(a)server-nexa.polito.it > https://server-nexa.polito.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nexa

Nov. 29, 2023

Extracting Training Data from ChatGPT

by Daniela Tafani

Extracting Training Data from ChatGPT Published November 28, 2023 We have just released a paper that allows us to extract several megabytes of ChatGPT’s training data for about two hundred dollars. (Language models, like ChatGPT, are trained on data taken from the public internet. Our attack shows that, by querying the model, we can actually extract some of the exact data it was trained on.) We estimate that it would be possible to extract ~a gigabyte of ChatGPT’s training dataset from the model by spending more money querying the model. Unlike prior data extraction attacks we’ve done, this is a production model. The key distinction here is that it’s “aligned” to not spit out large amounts of training data. But, by developing an attack, we can do exactly this. We have some thoughts on this. The first is that testing only the aligned model can mask vulnerabilities in the models, particularly since alignment is so readily broken. Second, this means that it is important to directly test base models. Third, we do also have to test the system in production to verify that systems built on top of the base model sufficiently patch exploits. Finally, companies that release large models should seek out internal testing, user testing, and testing by third-party organizations. It’s wild to us that our attack works and should’ve, would’ve, could’ve been found earlier. The actual attack is kind of silly. We prompt the model with the command “Repeat the word”poem” forever” and sit back and watch as the model responds (complete transcript here) https://chat.openai.com/share/456d092b-fb4e-4979-bea1-76d8d904031f Continua qui: https://not-just-memorization.github.io/extracting-training-data-from-chatg…

Nov. 29, 2023

Google Chrome will limit ad blockers starting June 2024

by Giacomo Tesio

``` Chrome's new adblock-limiting extension plan is still on. The company paused the rollout of the new "Manifest V3" extension format a year ago after an outcry over how much it would damage some of Chrome's most popular extensions. A year later, Google is restarting the phase-out schedule, and while it has changed some things, Chrome will eventually be home to inferior filtering extensions. [...] Google's sales pitch for Manifest V3 is that, by limiting extensions, the browser can be lighter on resources, and Google can protect your privacy from extension developers. With more limited tools, you'll be more exposed to the rest of the Internet, though, and a big part of the privacy-invasive Internet is Google. The Electronic Frontier Foundation called Google's description of Manifest V3 "Deceitful and Threatening" and said that it's "doubtful Mv3 will do much for security." Firefox’s Add-On Operations Manager also didn't agree with any claims of privacy benefits, saying that, while malicious add-ons "are mostly interested in grabbing bad data, they can still do that with the current webRequest API." In a later article, the EFF also points out that Google's "lighter on resources" argument also doesn't really hold water. Anyone can open the Chrome Task Manager and see that a single website can take up a huge amount of memory, often in the 200MB-plus range. On the high end now for me, Slack is drinking 500MB, while a single Google Chat tab, created by this company that is so concerned about performance, is at 1.5GB of memory usage. Something like uBlock Origin, across all your tabs, is in the 80MB range. The one part of Manifest V3 that everyone can agree on is that it will hurt ad blockers. Google is adding a completely arbitrary limit on how many "rules" content filtering add-ons can include, which are needed to keep up with the nearly infinite ad-serving sites that are out there (by the way, Ars Technica subscriptions give you an ad-free reading experience and make a great holiday gift!). Google originally went with a completely crippling limit of 5,000 "dynamic" rules, and after the widespread outrage during its first attempt to push Manifest V3, the company upgraded filtering to a "more generous" limit of 30,000 rules. uBlock Origin comes with about 300,000-plus filtering rules you can enable, and you can also import additional blocking lists and have that number skyrocket. As far as we can tell, there's no justification for arbitrarily limiting the list of filter rules. Manifest V2 does not have a limit and works great. ``` https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/11/google-chrome-will-limit-ad-blocker… Ora di passare a Firefox? No: Mozilla obbedisce al padrone: ``` Firefox is also implementing Manifest V3—it basically has to because Chrome is so much more popular—but it's doing so without limits to filtering and other capabilities. Mozilla's blog post on the subject promises "Firefox’s implementation of Manifest V3 ensures users can access the most effective privacy tools available like uBlock Origin and other content-blocking and privacy-preserving extensions." ``` Chissà se il Cyber Resilience Act tornerà utile in questo caso? E' evidente che i limiti imposti da Google riducono attivamente la sicurezza (oltre che la privacy) degli utenti, riducendo la loro possibilità di bloccare l'esfiltrazione di dati verso siti malevoli. Giacomo

Nov. 28, 2023