March 2023 - nexa - server-nexa.polito.it

Re: [nexa] a proposito dell'articolo di Chomsky sul NYT

by Roberto Dolci

Ciao Enrico, le principali differenze tra il fanciullo e ChatGPT, di cui notiamo comunque essere il primo robot a raggiungere la performance di un 9nne sulla scala di teoria della mente (era 3enne solo a novembre scorso): 1. il consumo energetico. Il nostro cervello non arriva ad una lampadina, mentre per ogni richiesta di ChatGP consumiamo una quantita' immonda di energia. 2. la creazione. Il bambino crea la spiegazione, e poi la testa immediatamente, validandola o creadone un altra. ChatGPT parte dallo scibile disponibile per inferire e quindi imparare, ovviamente non crea mai nulla di effettivamente nuovo. 3. la plasticita' degli organoidi cerebrali rispetto ai chip sotto ChatGPT e l'utilizzo della chimica nei processi cerebrali. La gestione della "potatura" delle memorie inutili nel nostro cervello e' ordini di grandezza piu' efficiente ed efficace di quanto disponibile con AI. Su Zafferano di sabato Un abbraccio Roberto ________________________________ Da: nexa <nexa-bounces(a)server-nexa.polito.it> per conto di Enrico Nardelli <nardelli(a)mat.uniroma2.it> Inviato: martedì 14 marzo 2023 17:30:08 A: Nexa Oggetto: [nexa] a proposito dell'articolo di Chomsky sul NYT Si tratta di questo articolo: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/08/opinion/noam-chomsky-chatgpt-ai.html (mi scuso qualora se ne fosse già discusso in lista) Ne stavo discutendo con colleghi di vari paesi in un'altra mailing list e in risposta ad alcune critiche fatte all'articolo ho scritto quanto riporto sotto (scusatemi se lo lascio in inglese ma siccome coinvolge l'uso di ChatGPT nell'analisi di un testo in inglese traducendolo diventava un'altra cosa) ... I find your viewpoint highly interesting, even if I somehow disagree on some of your criticism to Chomsky's article. I find an analogy between the way ChatGPT learned to master the language in comparison to human beings and how Alpha Zero learned to master board games in comparison to human beings. The deep-learning based approach exploited in both cases (almost) all available data, either through their availability on the Internet (in the case of the language) or through sophisticated systematic search through the strategy space (in the case of board games). Human beings become master (in both fields) leveraging a much smaller information space: the number of examples a child is exposed to while learning language is, just by considering time and space constraints, much smaller than what ChatGPT used. I do not know of any estimation of this (which would be an interesting thing to do) but I would say the size is inferior of some orders of magnitude (which to me implies the "language learning algorithm" inside human brain is exponentially more efficient then those used in DL - but that's a different story). Moreover human beings know the "meaning" of their action and are aware of the fact that they know such meaning. (See the note at the end supporting my statements.) This appears to me to be an important difference between the two approaches and I think is the reason why Chomsky wrote that ChatGTP is not going to teach us anything useful about how human beings learn and use language. One more interesting discussion of the Chomsky viewpoint, this time defending it, I suggest (in case you've not already read it) is the piece of Gary Marcus https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/caricaturing-noam-chomsky Best, Enrico NOTE: To test my statements I asked ChatGPT to analyse a paragraph of my mail. You can read the prompt and the answer further below. The answer is at best confusing. ChatGPT fails to identify the text has 2 sentences and not just 1. It does a wrong analysis of the first sentence, which contain two main clauses and not one main and one subordinate. That's particularly interesting since right after the wrong analysis it "explains" that "a main clause is an independent clause that stands alone as a complete sentence". So, it writes that it "knows" what a main clause is right after having shown it doesn't know. And the rest contains a number of additional errors. So, even if the examples ChatGPT has been exposed to surely contain many descriptions of grammar rules, it has not been able to get any understanding of them. A secondary high school student, having received much less data and much less training is able to do a much better job. CVD :-) PROMPT Please perform the analysis of clause and sentence structure of the text enclosed below between «»: «Human beings become master (in both fields) leveraging a much smaller information space: the number of examples a child is exposed to while learning language is, just by considering time and space constraints, much smaller than what ChatGPT used. I do not know of any estimation of this (which would be an interesting thing to do) but I would say the size is inferior of some orders of magnitude (which to me implies the "language learning algorithm" inside human brain is exponentially more efficient then those used in DL - but that's a different story).» ANSWER (ChatGPT release of Feb.13 - tested on Mar.14th) The text contains one sentence: "Human beings become master (in both fields) leveraging a much smaller information space: the number of examples a child is exposed to while learning language is, just by considering time and space constraints, much smaller than what ChatGPT used. I do not know of any estimation of this (which would be an interesting thing to do) but I would say the size is inferior of some orders of magnitude (which to me implies the "language learning algorithm" inside human brain is exponentially more efficient then those used in DL - but that's a different story)." The sentence contains two clauses: Main clause: "Human beings become master leveraging a much smaller information space" Subordinate clause: "the number of examples a child is exposed to while learning language is, just by considering time and space constraints, much smaller than what ChatGPT used" The main clause is an independent clause that stands alone as a complete sentence. It contains a subject ("human beings") and a predicate ("become master leveraging a much smaller information space"). The subordinate clause is a dependent clause that cannot stand alone as a complete sentence. It provides additional information to the main clause by describing the size of the information space that humans use to become masters in both fields. The subordinate clause contains a subject ("the number of examples a child is exposed to while learning language") and a predicate ("is much smaller than what ChatGPT used"). The phrase "just by considering time and space constraints" acts as an adverbial modifier that further clarifies the subordinate clause. The text also contains two embedded clauses: "which would be an interesting thing to do" is an embedded clause that acts as an object of the verb "know" in the main clause. "which to me implies the 'language learning algorithm' inside human brain is exponentially more efficient then those used in DL - but that's a different story" is an embedded clause that acts as the subject of the verb "is" in the subordinate clause. Additionally, the text contains a parenthetical remark: "but that's a different story," which is not syntactically connected to the rest of the sentence. END OF CHATGPT ANSWER -- -- EN https://www.hoepli.it/libro/la-rivoluzione-informatica/9788896069516.html [cid:part1.QxOcBkKn.zM1wtphx@mat.uniroma2.it] ====================================================== Prof. Enrico Nardelli Presidente di "Informatics Europe" Direttore del Laboratorio Nazionale "Informatica e Scuola" del CINI Dipartimento di Matematica - Università di Roma "Tor Vergata" Via della Ricerca Scientifica snc - 00133 Roma home page: https://www.mat.uniroma2.it/~nardelli blog: https://link-and-think.blogspot.it/ tel: +39 06 7259.4204 fax: +39 06 7259.4699 mobile: +39 335 590.2331 e-mail: nardelli(a)mat.uniroma2.it<mailto:nardelli@mat.uniroma2.it> online meeting: https://blue.meet.garr.it/b/enr-y7f-t0q-ont ====================================================== --

March 15, 2023

a proposito dell'articolo di Chomsky sul NYT

by Enrico Nardelli

Si tratta di questo articolo: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/08/opinion/noam-chomsky-chatgpt-ai.html (mi scuso qualora se ne fosse già discusso in lista) Ne stavo discutendo con colleghi di vari paesi in un'altra mailing list e in risposta ad alcune critiche fatte all'articolo ho scritto quanto riporto sotto (scusatemi se lo lascio in inglese ma siccome coinvolge l'uso di ChatGPT nell'analisi di un testo in inglese traducendolo diventava un'altra cosa) ... I find your viewpoint highly interesting, even if I somehow disagree on some of your criticism to Chomsky's article. I find an analogy between the way ChatGPT learned to master the language in comparison to human beings and how Alpha Zero learned to master board games in comparison to human beings. The deep-learning based approach exploited in both cases (almost) all available data, either through their availability on the Internet (in the case of the language) or through sophisticated systematic search through the strategy space (in the case of board games). Human beings become master (in both fields) leveraging a much smaller information space: the number of examples a child is exposed to while learning language is, just by considering time and space constraints, much smaller than what ChatGPT used. I do not know of any estimation of this (which would be an interesting thing to do) but I would say the size is inferior of some orders of magnitude (which to me implies the "language learning algorithm" inside human brain is exponentially more efficient then those used in DL - but that's a different story). Moreover human beings know the "meaning" of their action and are aware of the fact that they know such meaning. (See the note at the end supporting my statements.) This appears to me to be an important difference between the two approaches and I think is the reason why Chomsky wrote that ChatGTP is not going to teach us anything useful about how human beings learn and use language. One more interesting discussion of the Chomsky viewpoint, this time defending it, I suggest (in case you've not already read it) is the piece of Gary Marcus https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/caricaturing-noam-chomsky Best, Enrico NOTE: To test my statements I asked ChatGPT to analyse a paragraph of my mail. You can read the prompt and the answer further below. The answer is at best confusing. ChatGPT fails to identify the text has 2 sentences and not just 1. It does a wrong analysis of the first sentence, which contain two main clauses and not one main and one subordinate. That's particularly interesting since right after the wrong analysis it "explains" that "a main clause is an independent clause that stands alone as a complete sentence". So, it writes that it "knows" what a main clause is right after having shown it doesn't know. And the rest contains a number of additional errors. So, even if the examples ChatGPT has been exposed to surely contain many descriptions of grammar rules, it has not been able to get any understanding of them. A secondary high school student, having received much less data and much less training is able to do a much better job. CVD :-) PROMPT Please perform the analysis of clause and sentence structure of the text enclosed below between «»: «Human beings become master (in both fields) leveraging a much smaller information space: the number of examples a child is exposed to while learning language is, just by considering time and space constraints, much smaller than what ChatGPT used. I do not know of any estimation of this (which would be an interesting thing to do) but I would say the size is inferior of some orders of magnitude (which to me implies the "language learning algorithm" inside human brain is exponentially more efficient then those used in DL - but that's a different story).» ANSWER (ChatGPT release of Feb.13 - tested on Mar.14th) The text contains one sentence: "Human beings become master (in both fields) leveraging a much smaller information space: the number of examples a child is exposed to while learning language is, just by considering time and space constraints, much smaller than what ChatGPT used. I do not know of any estimation of this (which would be an interesting thing to do) but I would say the size is inferior of some orders of magnitude (which to me implies the "language learning algorithm" inside human brain is exponentially more efficient then those used in DL - but that's a different story)." The sentence contains two clauses: Main clause: "Human beings become master leveraging a much smaller information space" Subordinate clause: "the number of examples a child is exposed to while learning language is, just by considering time and space constraints, much smaller than what ChatGPT used" The main clause is an independent clause that stands alone as a complete sentence. It contains a subject ("human beings") and a predicate ("become master leveraging a much smaller information space"). The subordinate clause is a dependent clause that cannot stand alone as a complete sentence. It provides additional information to the main clause by describing the size of the information space that humans use to become masters in both fields. The subordinate clause contains a subject ("the number of examples a child is exposed to while learning language") and a predicate ("is much smaller than what ChatGPT used"). The phrase "just by considering time and space constraints" acts as an adverbial modifier that further clarifies the subordinate clause. The text also contains two embedded clauses: "which would be an interesting thing to do" is an embedded clause that acts as an object of the verb "know" in the main clause. "which to me implies the 'language learning algorithm' inside human brain is exponentially more efficient then those used in DL - but that's a different story" is an embedded clause that acts as the subject of the verb "is" in the subordinate clause. Additionally, the text contains a parenthetical remark: "but that's a different story," which is not syntactically connected to the rest of the sentence. END OF CHATGPT ANSWER -- -- EN https://www.hoepli.it/libro/la-rivoluzione-informatica/9788896069516.html ====================================================== Prof. Enrico Nardelli Presidente di "Informatics Europe" Direttore del Laboratorio Nazionale "Informatica e Scuola" del CINI Dipartimento di Matematica - Università di Roma "Tor Vergata" Via della Ricerca Scientifica snc - 00133 Roma home page: https://www.mat.uniroma2.it/~nardelli blog: https://link-and-think.blogspot.it/ tel: +39 06 7259.4204 fax: +39 06 7259.4699 mobile: +39 335 590.2331 e-mail: nardelli(a)mat.uniroma2.it online meeting: https://blue.meet.garr.it/b/enr-y7f-t0q-ont ====================================================== --

March 14, 2023

104° Nexa Lunch Seminar | 22 marzo 2023, ore 13.00

by Nexa Media

Gentilissime, gentilissimi, Vi invitiamo a partecipare al *104° Nexa Lunch Seminar *che si terrà *mercoledì 22 marzo*, dalle ore 13.00 alle ore 14.00, con un incontro dal titolo /*"Semiotica e intelligenza artificiale"*/. Ospite dell'incontro: *Antonio Santangelo* (Università di Torino e Centro Nexa su Internet e Società). _L'incontro si terrà IN PRESENZA e ONLINE._ _SEDE FISICA_ dell'incontro: Centro Nexa su Internet e Società, Politecnico di Torino, Via Boggio 65/a, Torino (1° piano). Per accedere alla sala si raccomanda di suonare al citofono *Portineria* e di seguire le indicazioni segnalate dai cartelli lungo il percorso. QUI <https://nexa.polito.it/contatti> maggiori informazioni su come raggiungerci. _STANZA VIRTUALE _dell'incontro: https://didattica.polito.it/VClass/NexaEvent Di seguito maggiori dettagli: Nexa Center for Internet and Society Newsletter Se non visualizzi correttamente questo messaggio clicca qui <https://nexa.polito.it/lunch-104> NEXA 104° Nexa Lunch Seminar Mercoledì 22 marzo 2022, ore 13.00 - 14.00 https://nexa.polito.it/lunch-104 Semiotica e intelligenza artificiale Speaker: *ANTONIO SANTANGELO* (Università di Torino e Centro Nexa su Internet e Società) *L'INCONTRO SI TERRÀ IN PRESENZA E ONLINE* *SEDE FISICA*: Centro Nexa su Internet e Società, Politecnico di Torino, Via Boggio 65/a, Torino (1° piano) Suonare al citofono "Portineria" - Seguire le indicazioni segnalate dai cartelli apposti lungo il percorso (Per maggiori informazioni su come raggiungerci clicca QUI <https://nexa.polito.it/contatti>) *STANZA VIRTUALE*: https://didattica.polito.it/VClass/NexaEvent L'*intelligenza artificiale* sta rapidamente prendendo piede nelle nostre società. Ma è davvero "intelligente"? Di che tipo di intelligenza è dotata? Come la concepiscono coloro che la progettano? Che senso ha servircene nella vita di tutti i giorni? In questo libro, si tenta di rispondere a queste domande con gli strumenti della *semiotica*, la *disciplina che si interroga*, appunto, *su come si determina il significato delle cose di cui facciamo esperienza.* Ci si concentra, in particolare, sulla *capacità delle macchine di interpretare la realtà e di aiutarci a interpretarla*. Inoltre, analizzando i discorsi portati avanti da chi le crea, le utilizza, ne parla nei saggi scientifici o sui giornali, nei film o nelle serie tv, si riflette sulle narrazioni e sulle ideologie che influiscono sul modo in cui le pensiamo. Ciò che se ne evince è un quadro interessante, non solo delle tecnologie di cui ci stiamo dotando, ma soprattutto di noi che scegliamo di servircene e della nostra visione del mondo. BIOGRAFIA - e informazioni supplementari: [Lunch104] *Antonio SANTANGELO* è professore associato presso l’Università di Torino, dove insegna Semiotica e Semiotica delle Culture Digitali, e dove ha insegnato per molti anni Semiotica della Televisione. Si occupa di media studies, science and technology studies e di sociosemiotica. Tra le sue pubblicazioni, /Sociosemiotica dell’audiovisivo/ (Aracne, 2013), /Narrazione e realtà. Il senso degli eventi/ (Aracne, 2017), con Guido Ferraro e, con Giuseppe Tipaldo, /Valutare la qualità televisiva. Metodi e strumenti socio-semiotici per le giurie del Prix Italia/ (Celid, 2014), /Semiotica e intelligenza artificiale/ (Aracne, 2023), con Massimo Leone. *Letture consigliate e link utili:* * Antonio Santangelo, Massimo Leone, /Semiotica e intelligenza artificiale/ <https://www.aracneeditrice.eu/it//pubblicazioni/semiotica-e-intelligenza-ar…>, Aracne - I saggi di Lexia, 2023 Che cosa sono il Centro Nexa e i cicli di incontri “Mercoledì di Nexa” e “Nexa Lunch Seminar” <https://www.facebook.com/nexa.center/> <https://twitter.com/nexacenter> <https://www.youtube.com/user/NexaCenter> <https://www.instagram.com/nexa_center/> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/3054864/admin/> #nexalunchseminar <https://twitter.com/search?q=%23nexalunchseminar&src=typd> #UNITO <https://twitter.com/unito> #AntonioSantangelo <https://twitter.com/antosan75> Il Centro Nexa su Internet & Società del Politecnico di Torino (Dipartimento di Automatica e Informatica), fondato nel 2006, è un centro di ricerca interdisciplinare che, in collaborazione con l’Università di Torino (in particolare il Dipartimento di Giurisprudenza), studia le tecnologie digitali e il loro rapporto con la società. Maggiori informazioni all'indirizzo: http://nexa.polito.it/about. Durante i “Mercoledì di Nexa”, che si tengono *ogni 2° mercoledì del mese alle ore 17 in punto*, il Centro Nexa su Internet e Società apre le sue porte non solo agli esperti e a tutti coloro i quali lavorano con Internet, ma anche a semplici appassionati e cittadini. Il ciclo di incontri intende approfondire, con un linguaggio preciso ma accessibile, i temi legati alla Rete: “intelligenza artificiale”, reti sociali, software libero, capitalismo della sorveglianza, neutralità della rete, libertà di espressione, privacy, condivisione di file, "big data" e "open data", “smart cities”, e molto altro. Al centro della maggior parte degli incontri un ospite pronto a dialogare con i direttori del Centro Nexa, il Prof. Juan Carlos De Martin del Politecnico di Torino, i Proff. Marco Ricolfi e Maurizio Borghi dell'Università di Torino, lo staff, i Fellows del Centro Nexa e tutti i presenti. Maggiori informazioni sui Mercoledì di Nexa, incluso un elenco di tutti i “Mercoledì” passati, sono disponibili all'indirizzo: http://nexa.polito.it/mercoledi. Le registrazioni degli incontri sono disponibili qui: https://nexa.polito.it/audio-video. Si segnala inoltre che dal maggio 2012 *ogni 4° mercoledì* del mese *dalle ore 13 alle ore 14* il Centro Nexa organizza anche i "*Nexa Lunch Seminar*". Una lista di tutti i “Lunch Seminar” passati è disponibile all'indirizzo: http://nexa.polito.it/lunch-seminars. See our events calendar <http://nexa.polito.it/events> if you're curious about future luncheons, discussions, lectures, and conferences not listed in this email. Our events are free and open to the public, unless otherwise noted. Responsabile Comunicazione Centro Nexa su Internet & Società: *Anita Botta*, tel: +39 011 090 7219, Mob: +39 347 131 3903, anita.botta(a)polito.it. Maggiori informazioni sui Mercoledì di Nexa e i Nexa Lunch Seminar, sono disponibili all'indirizzo: http://nexa.polito.it/events. Weekly Events Newsletter. Sign up <http://nexa.polito.it/mailing-lists> to receive this newsletter if this email was forwarded to you. To manage your subscription preferences, please click here <https://server-nexa.polito.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nexa>. Connect & get involved: Jobs, internships, and more <http://nexa.polito.it/get-involved>. Cordiali saluti, -- Anita Botta Communication Manager Nexa Center for Internet & Society Politecnico di Torino – DAUIN Corso Duca degli Abruzzi, 24 - 10129 Torino web: https://nexa.polito.it/ mail: anita.botta(a)polito.it tel: 011 090 7219

March 13, 2023

GAO S&T Spotlight - Securing Data for a Post-Quantum World

by Diego.Latella

GAO Science & Tech Spotlight: Securing Data for a Post-Quantum World https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-23-106559?utm_campaign=usgao_email&utm_con… DL -- Dott. Diego Latella - Senior Researcher CNR/ISTI, Via Moruzzi 1, 56124 Pisa, Italy (http:www.isti.cnr.it [1]) FM&&T Lab. (http://fmt.isti.cnr.it) CNR/GI-STS (http://gists.pi.cnr.it) https://www.isti.cnr.it/People/D.Latella - ph: +390506212982, fax: +390506212040 =================== Links: ------ [1] http://www.isti.cnr.it

March 13, 2023

Are Large Language Models All You Need?

by Giuseppe Attardi

Join me for a seminar at the AI Excellence Lecture Series, tomorrow 14/3/2023 at 5 PM on: Are Large Language Models All You Need? https://www.i-aida.org/events/large-language-models-are-all-you-need/ Large Language Models are All You Need? - AIDA - AI Doctoral Academy i-aida.org Abstract: LLMs are part of three major scientific breakthroughs in just 10 years of Deep Learning applied to NLP: word embeddings, transformers with attention and prompt tuning. LLMs have shown surprising effectiveness in all tasks and have been adopted even in cross-cutting creative tasks such as the generation of images, code or music from textual descriptions. They seem to exhibit abilities which go beyond the tasks on which they were trained. Emergent abilities arise with scaling and are a phenomenon still subject to investigation. LLMs also raised concerns, since the release of GPT-2, the withdrawal of Galactica or the unexpected success of ChatGPT. We will discuss their benefits, their limitations and how they will evolve. In particular, if the resources to build them will continue to grow, this might lead to a discrimination between groups of researchers and solutions to avoid this must be considered.

March 13, 2023

Re: [nexa] Dai droni alle armi autonome: Lasciare l’Apocalisse alle macchine? - F. Farruggia (a cura di) - Prefazione di G. Parisi - Franco Angeli Open Access

by Maria Chiara Pievatolo

On 11/03/23 10:30, Marco A. Calamari wrote: > Grazie, sembra molto interessante. > > Tra l'altro, non sapevo di questainiziativa dell'Open Access della > Franco Angeli. > > Ci sono altri editori italiani altrettanto lungimiranti? > Angeli adotta licenze decisamente restrittive, per uno che, *forse* (*), si è fatto pagare per pubblicare. Esistono ormai molte "university press" italiane che pubblicano ad accesso aperto. Ne seleziono tre solo per mostrare che sono presenti al nord, al centro e al sud: Unimi Press (ecco per esempio un volume su Aaron Swartz che potrebbe interessare alla lista: https://libri.unimi.it/index.php/milanoup/catalog/book/100) Firenze University Press, Messina University Press. Merita inotre di essere menzionata "Ledizioni" https://www.ledizioni.it/ . D'altra parte, però, c'è una notevole resistenza in quegli editori italiani i cui libri non hanno evidentemente bisogno di essere letti perché si fregiano dell'aureola del prestigio accademico, e ritengono di potersi permettere di interpretare l'open access in modo peculiare: https://www.roars.it/accesso-aperto-e-accesso-chiuso-una-risposta-ad-andrea… Infine, per quanto concerne le riviste, le multinazionali dell'editoria scientifica sono ben liete di farsi pagare, oltre o invece che per leggere, anche per scrivere. Infatti, finché le amministrazioni universitarie o statali continuano a dar loro in outsourcing la valutazione della ricerca in virtù della loro aura di presunto prestigio (https://getsyeducated.substack.com/p/pnas-is-not-a-good-journal) possono continuare a estorcere prezzi da monopolio. In questo senso, la loro lungimiranza è inversamente proporzionale a quella delle istituzioni che continuano a pagarle - in denaro pubblico, s'intende. https://aisa.sp.unipi.it/accordi-trasformativi-unofferta-che-non-si-puo-rif… Un saluto, MCP (*) Non sono, naturalmente, in grado di dire se in questo caso particolare l'editore si sia fatto pagare o no. Faccio semplicemente riferimento all'uso generale.

March 11, 2023

Re: [nexa] Dai droni alle armi autonome: Lasciare l’Apocalisse alle macchine? - F. Farruggia (a cura di) - Prefazione di G. Parisi - Franco Angeli Open Access

by Marco A. Calamari

Grazie, sembra molto interessante. Tra l'altro, non sapevo di questa iniziativa dell'Open Access della Franco Angeli. Ci sono altri editori italiani altrettanto lungimiranti? On ven, 2023-03-10 at 17:03 +0100, Diego.Latella wrote: > > Io normalmente non faccio selfie, anche perche' non li so fare, ma soprattutto > perche' un certo senso di pudore mi spinge a evitare le autopromozioni ... > > Pero' ho pensato che poteste essere interessati al libro appena uscito in > open access: > > Francesca Farruggia (a cura di) > Dai droni alle armi autonome: Lasciare l’Apocalisse alle macchine? > Prefazione di Giorgio Parisi > Scritti di: Fabrizio Battistelli, Sofia Bertieri, Francesca Farruggia, Barbara > Gallo, Adriano Iaria, Diego Latella, Michael Malinconi, Giorgio Parisi, Juan > Carlos Rossi, Maurizio Simoncelli, Gian Piero Siroli, Guglielmo Tamburrini. > https://series.francoangeli.it/index.php/oa/catalog/book/948 > > Buona lettura > > Diego > -- > Dott. Diego Latella - Senior Researcher CNR/ISTI, Via Moruzzi 1, 56124 Pisa, > Italy (http:www.isti.cnr.it) > FM&&T Lab. (http://fmt.isti.cnr.it) > CNR/GI-STS (http://gists.pi.cnr.it) > https://www.isti.cnr.it/People/D.Latella - ph: +390506212982, fax: > +390506212040 > =================== > > I don't quite know whether it is especially computer science or its > subdiscipline Artificial Intelligence that has such an enormous affection for > euphemism. We speak so spectacularly and so readily of computer systems that > understand, that see, decide, make judgments, and so on, without ourselves > recognizing our own superficiality and immeasurable naivete with respect to > these concepts. And, in the process of so speaking, we anesthetise our ability > to evaluate the quality of our work and, what is more important, to identify > and become conscious of its end use. […] One can't escape this state without > asking, again and again: "What do I actually do? What is the final application > and use of the products of my work?" and ultimately, "am I content or ashamed > to have contributed to this use?" > -- Prof. Joseph Weizenbaum ["Not without us", ACM SIGCAS 16(2-3) 2--7 - Aug. > 1986] > -- > > _______________________________________________ > nexa mailing list > nexa(a)server-nexa.polito.it > https://server-nexa.polito.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nexa

March 11, 2023

Re: [nexa] Dai droni alle armi autonome: Lasciare l’Apocalisse alle macchine? - F. Farruggia (a cura di) - Prefazione di G. Parisi - Franco Angeli Open Access

by J.C. DE MARTIN

Hai fatto benissimo, grazie! jc On 10/03/23 17:03, Diego.Latella wrote: > Io normalmente non faccio selfie, anche perche' non li so fare, ma > soprattutto perche' un certo senso di pudore mi spinge a evitare le > autopromozioni ... > > Pero' ho pensato che poteste essere interessati al libro appena uscito > in open access: > Francesca Farruggia (a cura di) > Dai droni alle armi autonome: Lasciare l’Apocalisse alle macchine? > Prefazione di Giorgio Parisi > Scritti di: Fabrizio Battistelli, Sofia Bertieri, Francesca Farruggia, > Barbara Gallo, Adriano Iaria, Diego Latella, Michael Malinconi, > Giorgio Parisi, Juan Carlos Rossi, Maurizio Simoncelli, Gian Piero > Siroli, Guglielmo Tamburrini. > https://series.francoangeli.it/index.php/oa/catalog/book/948 > > Buona lettura > > Diego > -- > Dott. Diego Latella - Senior Researcher CNR/ISTI, Via Moruzzi 1, 56124 > Pisa, Italy (http:www.isti.cnr.it <http://www.isti.cnr.it>) > FM&&T Lab. (http://fmt.isti.cnr.it) > CNR/GI-STS (http://gists.pi.cnr.it) > https://www.isti.cnr.it/People/D.Latella - ph: +390506212982, fax: > +390506212040 > =================== > > I don't quite know whether it is especially computer science or its > subdiscipline Artificial Intelligence that has such an enormous > affection for euphemism. We speak so spectacularly and so readily of > computer systems that understand, that see, decide, make judgments, > and so on, without ourselves recognizing our own superficiality and > immeasurable naivete with respect to these concepts. And, in the > process of so speaking, we anesthetise our ability to evaluate the > quality of our work and, what is more important, to identify and > become conscious of its end use. […] One can't escape this state > without asking, again and again: "What do I actually do? What is the > final application and use of the products of my work?" and ultimately, > "am I content or ashamed to have contributed to this use?" > -- Prof. Joseph Weizenbaum ["Not without us", ACM SIGCAS 16(2-3) 2--7 > - Aug. 1986] > -- > > _______________________________________________ > nexa mailing list > nexa(a)server-nexa.polito.it > https://server-nexa.polito.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nexa

March 10, 2023

Re: [nexa] Dai droni alle armi autonome: Lasciare l’Apocalisse alle macchine? - F. Farruggia (a cura di) - Prefazione di G. Parisi - Franco Angeli Open Access

by Diego Giorio

Molto interessante, grazie mille, ho già cominciato a leggerlo Saluti e buon fine settimana a tutti D. ________________________________ From: nexa <nexa-bounces(a)server-nexa.polito.it> on behalf of Diego.Latella <diego.latella(a)isti.cnr.it> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2023 4:03 PM To: associati(a)uspid.org <associati(a)uspid.org>; nexa <nexa(a)server-nexa.polito.it> Subject: [nexa] Dai droni alle armi autonome: Lasciare l’Apocalisse alle macchine? - F. Farruggia (a cura di) - Prefazione di G. Parisi - Franco Angeli Open Access Io normalmente non faccio selfie, anche perche' non li so fare, ma soprattutto perche' un certo senso di pudore mi spinge a evitare le autopromozioni ... Pero' ho pensato che poteste essere interessati al libro appena uscito in open access: Francesca Farruggia (a cura di) Dai droni alle armi autonome: Lasciare l’Apocalisse alle macchine? Prefazione di Giorgio Parisi Scritti di: Fabrizio Battistelli, Sofia Bertieri, Francesca Farruggia, Barbara Gallo, Adriano Iaria, Diego Latella, Michael Malinconi, Giorgio Parisi, Juan Carlos Rossi, Maurizio Simoncelli, Gian Piero Siroli, Guglielmo Tamburrini. https://series.francoangeli.it/index.php/oa/catalog/book/948 Buona lettura Diego -- Dott. Diego Latella - Senior Researcher CNR/ISTI, Via Moruzzi 1, 56124 Pisa, Italy (http:www.isti.cnr.it<http://www.isti.cnr.it>) FM&&T Lab. (http://fmt.isti.cnr.it) CNR/GI-STS (http://gists.pi.cnr.it) https://www.isti.cnr.it/People/D.Latella - ph: +390506212982, fax: +390506212040 =================== I don't quite know whether it is especially computer science or its subdiscipline Artificial Intelligence that has such an enormous affection for euphemism. We speak so spectacularly and so readily of computer systems that understand, that see, decide, make judgments, and so on, without ourselves recognizing our own superficiality and immeasurable naivete with respect to these concepts. And, in the process of so speaking, we anesthetise our ability to evaluate the quality of our work and, what is more important, to identify and become conscious of its end use. […] One can't escape this state without asking, again and again: "What do I actually do? What is the final application and use of the products of my work?" and ultimately, "am I content or ashamed to have contributed to this use?" -- Prof. Joseph Weizenbaum ["Not without us", ACM SIGCAS 16(2-3) 2--7 - Aug. 1986] --

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Re: [nexa] [Associati USPID] Dai droni alle armi autonome: Lasciare l’Apocalisse alle macchine? - F. Farruggia (a cura di) - Prefazione di G. Parisi - Franco Angeli Open Access

by marina rui

Grazie Marina Inviato da Outlook per Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> ________________________________ From: Diego.Latella via Associati <associati(a)uspid.org> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2023 5:03:52 PM To: associati(a)uspid.org <associati(a)uspid.org>; nexa <nexa(a)server-nexa.polito.it> Subject: [Associati USPID] Dai droni alle armi autonome: Lasciare l’Apocalisse alle macchine? - F. Farruggia (a cura di) - Prefazione di G. Parisi - Franco Angeli Open Access Io normalmente non faccio selfie, anche perche' non li so fare, ma soprattutto perche' un certo senso di pudore mi spinge a evitare le autopromozioni ... Pero' ho pensato che poteste essere interessati al libro appena uscito in open access: Francesca Farruggia (a cura di) Dai droni alle armi autonome: Lasciare l’Apocalisse alle macchine? Prefazione di Giorgio Parisi Scritti di: Fabrizio Battistelli, Sofia Bertieri, Francesca Farruggia, Barbara Gallo, Adriano Iaria, Diego Latella, Michael Malinconi, Giorgio Parisi, Juan Carlos Rossi, Maurizio Simoncelli, Gian Piero Siroli, Guglielmo Tamburrini. https://series.francoangeli.it/index.php/oa/catalog/book/948 Buona lettura Diego -- Dott. Diego Latella - Senior Researcher CNR/ISTI, Via Moruzzi 1, 56124 Pisa, Italy (http:www.isti.cnr.it<http://www.isti.cnr.it>) FM&&T Lab. (http://fmt.isti.cnr.it) CNR/GI-STS (http://gists.pi.cnr.it) https://www.isti.cnr.it/People/D.Latella - ph: +390506212982, fax: +390506212040 =================== I don't quite know whether it is especially computer science or its subdiscipline Artificial Intelligence that has such an enormous affection for euphemism. We speak so spectacularly and so readily of computer systems that understand, that see, decide, make judgments, and so on, without ourselves recognizing our own superficiality and immeasurable naivete with respect to these concepts. And, in the process of so speaking, we anesthetise our ability to evaluate the quality of our work and, what is more important, to identify and become conscious of its end use. […] One can't escape this state without asking, again and again: "What do I actually do? What is the final application and use of the products of my work?" and ultimately, "am I content or ashamed to have contributed to this use?" -- Prof. Joseph Weizenbaum ["Not without us", ACM SIGCAS 16(2-3) 2--7 - Aug. 1986] --

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