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Pentagon creates new digital and artificial intelligence office
by don Luca Peyron
Accadono cose, a ritmi serrati
dl
https://www.c4isrnet.com/artificial-intelligence/2021/12/08/pentagon-create…
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Jan. 6, 2022
Italian mafia fugitive arrested in Spain after Google Street View sighting | Mafia | The Guardian
by Alberto Cammozzo
<https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/05/italian-mafia-fugitive-arrest…>
An Italian mafia boss on the run for 20 years was tracked down to a Spanish town after being spotted on Google Street View.
Gioacchino Gammino, a convicted murderer listed among Italy’s most wanted gangsters, was arrested in Galapagar, a town near Madrid, where over the years he had married, changed his name to Manuel, worked as a chef and owned a fruit and vegetable shop.
Sicilian police carried out several investigations in their search for Gammino, 61, and a European arrest warrant was issued in 2014. The fugitive was traced to Spain, but it was Google Street View that helped to pinpoint his precise location.
The navigation tool, accessible through Google Maps, had captured an image of two men chatting outside a fruit and vegetable shop called El Huerto de Manu, or Manu’s Garden, in Galapagar. Police believed one of the men closely resembled Gammino, but his identity was only confirmed when they came across a listing for a nearby restaurant called La Cocina de Manu or Manu’s Kitchen.
The shop and the restaurant are now closed, but the police found a photo of Gammino, dressed in his chef’s garb, on a still-existing Facebook page for La Cocina de Manu. He was recognisable by the scar on the left side of his chin. The restaurant’s menu included a dish called Cena Siciliana or Sicilian dinner.
Gammino was arrested on 17 December but the details surrounding his capture did not come to light until they were reported by La Repubblica on Wednesday.
The details were confirmed by the Palermo prosecutor Francesco Lo Voi, who led the latest investigation. “It’s not as if we spend our days wading through Google Maps to find fugitives,” he told the Guardian. “There were many previous and long investigations, which led us to Spain. We were on a good path, with Google Maps helping to confirm our investigations.”
After 20 years in hiding, Gammino thought he had managed to sever all his ties with Sicily. Upon his arrest, he reportedly told police: “How did you find me? I haven’t even called my family for 10 years!”
Gammino belonged to a mafia clan in Agrigento, Sicily, which was caught up in a bloody feud with Cosa Nostra, Sicily’s main mafia network, in the 1990s. He was first arrested in 1984, when he was investigated by the anti-mafia judge Giovanni Falcone, who was assassinated by the mafia in a car bomb in 1992.
Gammino was wanted for murder and various other mafia-related crimes. He was arrested for a second time in Barcelona in 1998. He had been serving a life sentence at Rebibbia prison in Rome when, in 2002, he managed to escape during the commotion of the making of a film at the prison.
It is not the first time a mafia fugitive has been caught with the help of the web. In March last year, Mark Feren Claude Biart was captured in the Caribbean after appearing in YouTube cooking videos. Biart had been on the run since 2014, when Italian prosecutors ordered his arrest for trafficking cocaine in the Netherlands on behalf of the Cacciola clan of the ’Ndrangheta mafia.
Until his arrest, Biart had been leading a quiet life among the Italian expat community in Boca Chica in the Dominican Republic. Although the YouTube videos of him flaunting his cooking skills never showed his face, police said he was betrayed by the distinctive tattoos on his body.
In 2019, police arrested a mobster with the Camorra mafia organisation while he was eating pasta with his two cats sitting beside him in an apartment in the outskirts of Naples.
Jan. 6, 2022
"Le religioni delle nuove tecnologie: un’analisi del rapporto tra religione e modernità" | 14 gennaio 2022, ore 18:00
by Nexa Media
Gentilissimi,
vi invitiamo a partecipare all'incontro /*"Le religioni delle nuove
tecnologie: un’analisi del rapporto tra religione e modernità"*/
che si terrà *venerdì 14 gennaio 2022*, dalle ore 18:00 alle ore 20:00.
Ospite: *Giovanni Leghissa* (Università di Torino e Faculty Fellow
Centro Nexa).
Maggiori informazioni sull'incontro sono disponibili alla pagina:
https://nexa.polito.it/religione-e-tecnologie
Sarà possibile partecipare al seminario connettendosi al seguente
indirizzo: https://didattica.polito.it/VClass/NexaEvent
Cordiali saluti,
--
Anita Botta
Communication Manager
Nexa Center for Internet & Society
Politecnico di Torino – DAUIN
Corso Duca degli Abruzzi, 24 - 10129 Torino
_web:_ https://nexa.polito.it/
_mail:_anita.botta@polito.it <mailto:anita.botta@polito.it>
tel: 011 090 7219
Jan. 5, 2022
Re: [nexa] Climate & Crypto
by Antonio Iacono
> - Il nuovo sistema basato su energie rinnovabili e Bitcoin produrrà
benefici globali in termini di sostenibilità ed inclusività.
Mah, nel lontano futuro forse. Per il presente (e l'immediato futuro) i
"freddi" numeri [1] dicono ben altro.
Ad esempio che nel 91,74 dei "conti", degli "indirizzi", si trovano
depositate meno di 0,1 BTC.
Che lo 0,37% degli indirizzi possiede l'85,65% dell'intero valore del
mercato Bitcoin.
Che questo 0,37% è talmente ricco da potersi permettere contratti da
milioni di dollari con il calcio.
Crypto.com sponsorizza la Serie A, Socios.com l'Inter, DigitalBits la
Roma, BitMEX il Milan.
Che CoinBase, l’/exchanger/ più importante di tutti, batte ogni record
sul NASDAQ capitalizzando 65,3 miliardi di dollari al suo debutto.
Verrebbe da dire niente di nuovo sotto il sole.
E con il tanto decantato "Proof of stake" sarà ancora peggio, ancora più
"potere" ai pochi, a discapito dei tanti.
A.
[1] https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html
Jan. 5, 2022
Re: [nexa] Climate & Crypto
by Giovanna Sissa
L'articolo indicato da Antonio "Interrogating the promises and perils
of climate cryptogovernance: Blockchain discourses in international
climate politics" è decisamente critico sul ruolo della blockchain
nella climate governance.
Nell'articolo emerge bene come l'incorporazione della blockchain negli
strumenti di politica climatica si ponga decisamente in una
"dimensione anticipatoria", in cui le "pretese di conoscenza" sono
elaborate da "attori influenti". Dunque ciò che si dice e si comunica
sulla blockchain, nel contesto del cambiamento climatico, diventa
estremamente rilevante perchè può avere un impatto sostanziale sul
modo in cui il fenomeno viene compreso e potenzialmente distribuito.
Le tesi, proposte da alcuni, di uso della tecnologia blockchain come
strumento forte per la climate governance vengono analizzate e
smontate dagli autori in modo puntuale, rigoroso e, a mio avviso,
convincente.
La considerazione finale, già riportata da Antonio, è chiarissima:
"In interrogating this dominant storyline, we showed that, far from
transforming current modes of governance, it risks privileging further
the currently dominant technocratic, market-friendly and procedural
approach to multilateral climate governance".
Interessante, come sviluppo del discorso, anche l'intervista di
Mozorof a Olivier Jutel:
https://the-crypto-syllabus.com/blockchain-imperialism/
Secondo Jutel "The power of blockchain is not derived from the
technology itself, which rarely demonstrably satisfies its own terms
of success, but as an ideological force and discourse of governance.
Blockchain imperialism thus functions as a new data cartography of
control oscillating between the objectives of state, capital and the
solutionist prospecting of developers."
L'articolo completo (pre-print) è qui:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/335907947_Blockchain_Imperialism_i…
Di Olivier Juttel anche l'articolo, pubblicato su Patterns,
"Blockchain humanitarianism and crypto-colonialism"
https://www.cell.com/patterns/fulltext/S2666-3899(21)00305-6
Giovanna
> Tutto parte dal lavoro di cui è coautrice la Kloppenburg [1]
>
> in cui:
>
> "In interrogating this dominant storyline, we showed that, far from
> transforming current modes of governance, it risks privileging further
> the currently dominant technocratic, market-friendly and procedural
> approach to multilateral climate governance"
>
> A.
>
>
> [1] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2589811621000215
>
>
> Il 03/01/22 22:55, Alberto Cammozzo via nexa ha scritto:
> >
> > Non ho approfondito la questione e non mi sono formato una opinione
> > conclusiva, ma segnalo posizioni che sostengono che il conto della
> > sostenibilità è più complesso di quanto appaia, ad esempio
> > considerando l'impronta del sistema bancario che potrebbe essere
> > sostituito.
> >
> > Ad es:
> >
> > <https://danhedl.medium.com/pow-is-efficient-aa3d442754d3>
> >
> > <https://www.coindesk.com/business/2020/05/19/the-last-word-on-bitcoins-ener…>
> >
> > <https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2021/06/29/more-energy-efficient-blockchain…>
> >
> > Ciao,
> >
> > Alberto
> >
> > On 03/01/22 21:32, Emilio Rocca wrote:
> >> Per esempio le blockchain che funzionano con il sistema Delegated
> >> Proof of Stake (DPoS) non sprecano lavoro ed energia come quelle
> >> Proof of Work. Queste ultime effettivamente sono incompatibili con il
> >> pensiero green.
> >>
> >> El lun., 3 de ene. de 2022 19:14, Claudio Agosti
> >> <claudio.agosti(a)logioshermes.org> escribió:
> >>
> >> Capisco che per le blockchain proof-of-work questa possa essere
> >> una riflessione abbastanza legittima, ma ci sono anche sistemi
> >> che usano meccanismi diversi e che non dipendono dal mining.
> >> Sbaglio io a considerarle piú sostenibili?
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jan 3, 2022, 12:13 Antonio Iacono <antonio(a)piumarossa.it>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Interessante conversazione tra Evgeny Morozov e Sanneke
> >> Kloppenburg [1]
> >>
> >> La parte che "mi piace" di più è comunque la fine:
> >>
> >> There is, of course, a third, even more radical possibility:
> >> the boycott
> >> of anything related to blockchains and cryptocurrencies, not
> >> least
> >> because they have a huge environmental impact. Some scholars,
> >> like Pete
> >> Howson, for example, have called for global bans (or least
> >> limitations)
> >> on crypto-mining due to their disastrous impact on emissions
> >> (which we
> >> probably still underestimate). So, there’s always the option
> >> of moving
> >> from “blowing up a pipeline” in the colorful formulation of
> >> Andreas Malm
> >> to “blowing up a blockchain.” What are you thoughts on this
> >> more radical
> >> option?
> >>
> >> Blockchain, like many other digital technologies, does have a
> >> huge
> >> environmental footprint. There is now an increasing effort to
> >> develop
> >> guidelines and regulations for the responsible use of digital
> >> technologies, for example by the EU and by standard setting
> >> organisations. The goal of such guidelines and regulations is to
> >> mitigate the societal implications of digital technology. The
> >> harmful
> >> environmental impacts of digital technologies, however, do
> >> not get the
> >> same amount of attention yet.
> >>
> >> Often the energy consumption of technologies, but also the
> >> more systemic
> >> environmental risks of using digital technologies, is an
> >> externality,
> >> which remains invisible and hard to quantify. This is a
> >> serious problem,
> >> which goes beyond the case of the blockchain, as it also
> >> applies to
> >> Artificial Intelligence, for example. It is crucial to better
> >> integrate
> >> sustainability in these efforts to regulate the societal
> >> impact of
> >> digital technology. The sustainability aspects of
> >> technologies should
> >> not be an afterthought, but taken into account already when a
> >> technology
> >> is proposed or designed.
> >>
> >> A.
> >>
> >> [1]
> >> https://the-crypto-syllabus.com/sanneke-kloppenburg-on-climate-cryptogovern…
> >>
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Jan. 5, 2022
Cosa succede ai confini dell'UE?
by Alessandro Brolpito
Nell'ambito delle relazioni esterne, la EU supporta la trasformazione digitale nei paesi "partners. Il link di seguito porta alla recente joint declaration, firmata tra la EU e i paesi del' ex Unione Sovietica nell'est Europa (Republic of Armenia, the Republic of Azerbaijan, Georgia, the Republic of Moldova and Ukraine - per la prima volta senza la Belarus). Un'area geografica che soffre di un'alta instabilità: basta pensare al recente conflitto tra Armenia ed Azerbaijan, l'instabilità politica in Georgia, le tensioni tra Ukraine e Russia e, non da ultimo, la situazione in Belarus. Il tema digitale/internet e prioritario ed un elemento di dialogo nella regione, supportato dall'EU, su temi come le infrastrutture digitali, accordi di roaming, competenze digitali. E su questi temi ci si siede tutti insieme ad un tavolo (cosa non da poco ed una importante opportunità).
Eastern Partnership summit - joint declaration - Consilium (europa.eu)<https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2021/12/15/eastern-…>
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Policy and Public Outreach Department
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Jan. 4, 2022
Re: [nexa] Climate & Crypto
by David Orban
Alcune considerazioni che spero possiate trovare utili.
1. Il sistema finanziario delle nazioni e quello globale è da sempre basato
su Proof of Work: la capacità di trasformare in forza economica utile
l'abilità di estrarre, gestire, trasformare e impiegare risorse naturali.
- Fino al 1971 attraverso l'estrazione dell'oro contro cui le monete erano
scambiabili https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_standard.
- Da quel momento attraverso l'estrazione del petrolio, che con il sistema
del petrodollaro ha dato forza agli Stati Uniti d'America nei confronti di
tutte le altre nazioni (nemici e amici inclusi).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrodollar_recycling
- Adesso si sta realizzando un nuovo sistema finanziario globale, basato
sui meccanismi di Bitcoin. Ci sono importanti differenze rispetto a prima,
ma non si trovano nella relazione tra uso dell'energia e forza
economico-finanziaria.
Il confronto quindi, se il punto di vista della sostenibilità è quello
supremo, va fatto tra l'impatto in termini di esternalità negative dei vari
sistemi, per poter decidere quale è più desiderabile Quale ha un maggiore
impatto nella distruzione dell'ambiente, inquinamento locale e globale,
produzione di CO2, corruzione della società e delle comunità?
2. L'energia da fonti sostenibili e rinnovabili come il solare fotovoltaico
è la più economica al mondo.
- E' previsto che il suo costo scenda ancora radicalmente, come una
riduzione del 90% entro la fine del decennio.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power#Levelized_cost_of_electricity
- Il mining di Bitcoin è basato su circuiti che sono praticamente uguali
per tutti e la sua profittabilità è inversamente proporzionale con un unico
parametro, quello del costo dell'energia. E quindi le operazioni di mining
sono alla continua ricerca delle fonti più economiche. Cioè stanno
continuamente incentivando l'esplorazione di fonti rinnovabili a livello
mondiale.
https://bitcoinminingcouncil.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/2021.10.19-Q3-B…
3. La naturale confusione durante il periodo di transizione dei prossimi
5-10 anni, dal petrodollaro al Bitcoin a livello mondiale è sfruttato per
cercare di mantenere il vantaggio economico dell'Impero Americano da una
parte e del controllo autoritario dell'Impero Cinese dall'altra.
- L'economia giapponese stava diventando troppo competitiva negli anni '80,
e gli USA hanno utilizzato gli accordi di Louvre per far rafforzare le
valute nei confronti del dollaro e imposto una stagnazione economica durata
30 anni. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louvre_Accord
- Quando l'Iraq ha cominciato ad accettare euro in cambio del petrolio, gli
USA hanno utilizzato la scusa degli attacchi dell'11 settembre e delle
inesistenti armi di distruzione di massa per bloccare questa possibilità. E
più recentemente il tentativo dell'Iran di fare altrettanto.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrocurrency#Iran
4. Il passaggio al nuovo sistema energetico-finanziario è inarrestabile e
rapido.
- Il nuovo sistema basato su energie rinnovabili e Bitcoin produrrà
benefici globali in termini di sostenibilità ed inclusività. Verrà adottato
progressivamente da tutto il mondo non perché è imposto, ma perché vincente
sulle alternative. Le rivoluzioni simultanee dei sistemi di produzione e
distribuzione dell'energia, costruzione e trasporti, cibo e agricoltura,
ecc. avvengono ad un ritmo di accelerazione crescente. http://jolting.co
Un ottimo articolo è stato scritto sul sistema Bitcoin-energia-finanza da
Lorenzo Vallecchi, con cui ho poi avuto una lunga conversazione.
https://lorenzovallecchi.medium.com/bitcoin-and-energy-in-the-next-50-years…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R5ZtgMMbEc
Tony Seba analizza da più di dieci anni la trasformazione energetica e ha
pubblicato un rapporto molto dettagliato recentemente, anche qui ne abbiamo
parlato insieme.
https://www.rethinkx.com/humanity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGzrcmDrFfo
David Orban
"What is the question that I should be asking?"
davidorban.com
On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 1:19 PM Antonio Iacono <antonio(a)piumarossa.it> wrote:
> Scusate ma il tema della conversazione segnalata non è se la blockchain
> sia energivora o meno, ma quanto e se la blockchain (come tecnologia)
> possa aiutare la "climate governance".
>
> Tutto parte dal lavoro di cui è coautrice la Kloppenburg [1]
>
> in cui:
>
> "In interrogating this dominant storyline, we showed that, far from
> transforming current modes of governance, it risks privileging further
> the currently dominant technocratic, market-friendly and procedural
> approach to multilateral climate governance"
>
> A.
>
>
> [1] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2589811621000215
>
>
> Il 03/01/22 22:55, Alberto Cammozzo via nexa ha scritto:
> >
> > Non ho approfondito la questione e non mi sono formato una opinione
> > conclusiva, ma segnalo posizioni che sostengono che il conto della
> > sostenibilità è più complesso di quanto appaia, ad esempio
> > considerando l'impronta del sistema bancario che potrebbe essere
> > sostituito.
> >
> > Ad es:
> >
> > <https://danhedl.medium.com/pow-is-efficient-aa3d442754d3>
> >
> > <
> https://www.coindesk.com/business/2020/05/19/the-last-word-on-bitcoins-ener…
> >
> >
> > <
> https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2021/06/29/more-energy-efficient-blockchain…
> >
> >
> > Ciao,
> >
> > Alberto
> >
> > On 03/01/22 21:32, Emilio Rocca wrote:
> >> Per esempio le blockchain che funzionano con il sistema Delegated
> >> Proof of Stake (DPoS) non sprecano lavoro ed energia come quelle
> >> Proof of Work. Queste ultime effettivamente sono incompatibili con il
> >> pensiero green.
> >>
> >> El lun., 3 de ene. de 2022 19:14, Claudio Agosti
> >> <claudio.agosti(a)logioshermes.org> escribió:
> >>
> >> Capisco che per le blockchain proof-of-work questa possa essere
> >> una riflessione abbastanza legittima, ma ci sono anche sistemi
> >> che usano meccanismi diversi e che non dipendono dal mining.
> >> Sbaglio io a considerarle piú sostenibili?
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jan 3, 2022, 12:13 Antonio Iacono <antonio(a)piumarossa.it>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Interessante conversazione tra Evgeny Morozov e Sanneke
> >> Kloppenburg [1]
> >>
> >> La parte che "mi piace" di più è comunque la fine:
> >>
> >> There is, of course, a third, even more radical possibility:
> >> the boycott
> >> of anything related to blockchains and cryptocurrencies, not
> >> least
> >> because they have a huge environmental impact. Some scholars,
> >> like Pete
> >> Howson, for example, have called for global bans (or least
> >> limitations)
> >> on crypto-mining due to their disastrous impact on emissions
> >> (which we
> >> probably still underestimate). So, there’s always the option
> >> of moving
> >> from “blowing up a pipeline” in the colorful formulation of
> >> Andreas Malm
> >> to “blowing up a blockchain.” What are you thoughts on this
> >> more radical
> >> option?
> >>
> >> Blockchain, like many other digital technologies, does have a
> >> huge
> >> environmental footprint. There is now an increasing effort to
> >> develop
> >> guidelines and regulations for the responsible use of digital
> >> technologies, for example by the EU and by standard setting
> >> organisations. The goal of such guidelines and regulations is to
> >> mitigate the societal implications of digital technology. The
> >> harmful
> >> environmental impacts of digital technologies, however, do
> >> not get the
> >> same amount of attention yet.
> >>
> >> Often the energy consumption of technologies, but also the
> >> more systemic
> >> environmental risks of using digital technologies, is an
> >> externality,
> >> which remains invisible and hard to quantify. This is a
> >> serious problem,
> >> which goes beyond the case of the blockchain, as it also
> >> applies to
> >> Artificial Intelligence, for example. It is crucial to better
> >> integrate
> >> sustainability in these efforts to regulate the societal
> >> impact of
> >> digital technology. The sustainability aspects of
> >> technologies should
> >> not be an afterthought, but taken into account already when a
> >> technology
> >> is proposed or designed.
> >>
> >> A.
> >>
> >> [1]
> >>
> https://the-crypto-syllabus.com/sanneke-kloppenburg-on-climate-cryptogovern…
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Re: [nexa] Climate & Crypto
by Antonio Iacono
Scusate ma il tema della conversazione segnalata non è se la blockchain
sia energivora o meno, ma quanto e se la blockchain (come tecnologia)
possa aiutare la "climate governance".
Tutto parte dal lavoro di cui è coautrice la Kloppenburg [1]
in cui:
"In interrogating this dominant storyline, we showed that, far from
transforming current modes of governance, it risks privileging further
the currently dominant technocratic, market-friendly and procedural
approach to multilateral climate governance"
A.
[1] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2589811621000215
Il 03/01/22 22:55, Alberto Cammozzo via nexa ha scritto:
>
> Non ho approfondito la questione e non mi sono formato una opinione
> conclusiva, ma segnalo posizioni che sostengono che il conto della
> sostenibilità è più complesso di quanto appaia, ad esempio
> considerando l'impronta del sistema bancario che potrebbe essere
> sostituito.
>
> Ad es:
>
> <https://danhedl.medium.com/pow-is-efficient-aa3d442754d3>
>
> <https://www.coindesk.com/business/2020/05/19/the-last-word-on-bitcoins-ener…>
>
> <https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2021/06/29/more-energy-efficient-blockchain…>
>
> Ciao,
>
> Alberto
>
> On 03/01/22 21:32, Emilio Rocca wrote:
>> Per esempio le blockchain che funzionano con il sistema Delegated
>> Proof of Stake (DPoS) non sprecano lavoro ed energia come quelle
>> Proof of Work. Queste ultime effettivamente sono incompatibili con il
>> pensiero green.
>>
>> El lun., 3 de ene. de 2022 19:14, Claudio Agosti
>> <claudio.agosti(a)logioshermes.org> escribió:
>>
>> Capisco che per le blockchain proof-of-work questa possa essere
>> una riflessione abbastanza legittima, ma ci sono anche sistemi
>> che usano meccanismi diversi e che non dipendono dal mining.
>> Sbaglio io a considerarle piú sostenibili?
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 3, 2022, 12:13 Antonio Iacono <antonio(a)piumarossa.it>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Interessante conversazione tra Evgeny Morozov e Sanneke
>> Kloppenburg [1]
>>
>> La parte che "mi piace" di più è comunque la fine:
>>
>> There is, of course, a third, even more radical possibility:
>> the boycott
>> of anything related to blockchains and cryptocurrencies, not
>> least
>> because they have a huge environmental impact. Some scholars,
>> like Pete
>> Howson, for example, have called for global bans (or least
>> limitations)
>> on crypto-mining due to their disastrous impact on emissions
>> (which we
>> probably still underestimate). So, there’s always the option
>> of moving
>> from “blowing up a pipeline” in the colorful formulation of
>> Andreas Malm
>> to “blowing up a blockchain.” What are you thoughts on this
>> more radical
>> option?
>>
>> Blockchain, like many other digital technologies, does have a
>> huge
>> environmental footprint. There is now an increasing effort to
>> develop
>> guidelines and regulations for the responsible use of digital
>> technologies, for example by the EU and by standard setting
>> organisations. The goal of such guidelines and regulations is to
>> mitigate the societal implications of digital technology. The
>> harmful
>> environmental impacts of digital technologies, however, do
>> not get the
>> same amount of attention yet.
>>
>> Often the energy consumption of technologies, but also the
>> more systemic
>> environmental risks of using digital technologies, is an
>> externality,
>> which remains invisible and hard to quantify. This is a
>> serious problem,
>> which goes beyond the case of the blockchain, as it also
>> applies to
>> Artificial Intelligence, for example. It is crucial to better
>> integrate
>> sustainability in these efforts to regulate the societal
>> impact of
>> digital technology. The sustainability aspects of
>> technologies should
>> not be an afterthought, but taken into account already when a
>> technology
>> is proposed or designed.
>>
>> A.
>>
>> [1]
>> https://the-crypto-syllabus.com/sanneke-kloppenburg-on-climate-cryptogovern…
>>
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Re: [nexa] Climate & Crypto
by Alberto Cammozzo
Non ho approfondito la questione e non mi sono formato una opinione
conclusiva, ma segnalo posizioni che sostengono che il conto della
sostenibilità è più complesso di quanto appaia, ad esempio considerando
l'impronta del sistema bancario che potrebbe essere sostituito.
Ad es:
<https://danhedl.medium.com/pow-is-efficient-aa3d442754d3>
<https://www.coindesk.com/business/2020/05/19/the-last-word-on-bitcoins-ener…>
<https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2021/06/29/more-energy-efficient-blockchain…>
Ciao,
Alberto
On 03/01/22 21:32, Emilio Rocca wrote:
> Per esempio le blockchain che funzionano con il sistema Delegated
> Proof of Stake (DPoS) non sprecano lavoro ed energia come quelle Proof
> of Work. Queste ultime effettivamente sono incompatibili con il
> pensiero green.
>
> El lun., 3 de ene. de 2022 19:14, Claudio Agosti
> <claudio.agosti(a)logioshermes.org
> <mailto:claudio.agosti@logioshermes.org>> escribió:
>
> Capisco che per le blockchain proof-of-work questa possa essere
> una riflessione abbastanza legittima, ma ci sono anche sistemi che
> usano meccanismi diversi e che non dipendono dal mining. Sbaglio
> io a considerarle piú sostenibili?
>
> On Mon, Jan 3, 2022, 12:13 Antonio Iacono <antonio(a)piumarossa.it
> <mailto:antonio@piumarossa.it>> wrote:
>
> Interessante conversazione tra Evgeny Morozov e Sanneke
> Kloppenburg [1]
>
> La parte che "mi piace" di più è comunque la fine:
>
> There is, of course, a third, even more radical possibility:
> the boycott
> of anything related to blockchains and cryptocurrencies, not
> least
> because they have a huge environmental impact. Some scholars,
> like Pete
> Howson, for example, have called for global bans (or least
> limitations)
> on crypto-mining due to their disastrous impact on emissions
> (which we
> probably still underestimate). So, there’s always the option
> of moving
> from “blowing up a pipeline” in the colorful formulation of
> Andreas Malm
> to “blowing up a blockchain.” What are you thoughts on this
> more radical
> option?
>
> Blockchain, like many other digital technologies, does have a
> huge
> environmental footprint. There is now an increasing effort to
> develop
> guidelines and regulations for the responsible use of digital
> technologies, for example by the EU and by standard setting
> organisations. The goal of such guidelines and regulations is to
> mitigate the societal implications of digital technology. The
> harmful
> environmental impacts of digital technologies, however, do not
> get the
> same amount of attention yet.
>
> Often the energy consumption of technologies, but also the
> more systemic
> environmental risks of using digital technologies, is an
> externality,
> which remains invisible and hard to quantify. This is a
> serious problem,
> which goes beyond the case of the blockchain, as it also
> applies to
> Artificial Intelligence, for example. It is crucial to better
> integrate
> sustainability in these efforts to regulate the societal
> impact of
> digital technology. The sustainability aspects of technologies
> should
> not be an afterthought, but taken into account already when a
> technology
> is proposed or designed.
>
> A.
>
> [1]
> https://the-crypto-syllabus.com/sanneke-kloppenburg-on-climate-cryptogovern…
> <https://the-crypto-syllabus.com/sanneke-kloppenburg-on-climate-cryptogovern…>
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Re: [nexa] Climate & Crypto
by Emilio Rocca
Per esempio le blockchain che funzionano con il sistema Delegated Proof of
Stake (DPoS) non sprecano lavoro ed energia come quelle Proof of Work.
Queste ultime effettivamente sono incompatibili con il pensiero green.
El lun., 3 de ene. de 2022 19:14, Claudio Agosti <
claudio.agosti(a)logioshermes.org> escribió:
> Capisco che per le blockchain proof-of-work questa possa essere una
> riflessione abbastanza legittima, ma ci sono anche sistemi che usano
> meccanismi diversi e che non dipendono dal mining. Sbaglio io a
> considerarle piú sostenibili?
>
> On Mon, Jan 3, 2022, 12:13 Antonio Iacono <antonio(a)piumarossa.it> wrote:
>
>> Interessante conversazione tra Evgeny Morozov e Sanneke Kloppenburg [1]
>>
>> La parte che "mi piace" di più è comunque la fine:
>>
>> There is, of course, a third, even more radical possibility: the boycott
>> of anything related to blockchains and cryptocurrencies, not least
>> because they have a huge environmental impact. Some scholars, like Pete
>> Howson, for example, have called for global bans (or least limitations)
>> on crypto-mining due to their disastrous impact on emissions (which we
>> probably still underestimate). So, there’s always the option of moving
>> from “blowing up a pipeline” in the colorful formulation of Andreas Malm
>> to “blowing up a blockchain.” What are you thoughts on this more radical
>> option?
>>
>> Blockchain, like many other digital technologies, does have a huge
>> environmental footprint. There is now an increasing effort to develop
>> guidelines and regulations for the responsible use of digital
>> technologies, for example by the EU and by standard setting
>> organisations. The goal of such guidelines and regulations is to
>> mitigate the societal implications of digital technology. The harmful
>> environmental impacts of digital technologies, however, do not get the
>> same amount of attention yet.
>>
>> Often the energy consumption of technologies, but also the more systemic
>> environmental risks of using digital technologies, is an externality,
>> which remains invisible and hard to quantify. This is a serious problem,
>> which goes beyond the case of the blockchain, as it also applies to
>> Artificial Intelligence, for example. It is crucial to better integrate
>> sustainability in these efforts to regulate the societal impact of
>> digital technology. The sustainability aspects of technologies should
>> not be an afterthought, but taken into account already when a technology
>> is proposed or designed.
>>
>> A.
>>
>> [1]
>>
>> https://the-crypto-syllabus.com/sanneke-kloppenburg-on-climate-cryptogovern…
>>
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