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3rd Creative Commons Technical Summit (Torino, 26 giugno 2009)
by J.C. DE MARTIN
Buonasera a tutti,
vi segnalo che venerdi' 26 giugno 2009
si terra' presso l'Aula Magna del Politecnico al
Lingotto il
3rd Creative Commons Technical Summit
Questa terza edizione, ospitata dal Centro NEXA
su Internet & Società (http://nexa.polito.it) del Politecnico,
segue alla prima (giugno 2008) presso il campus di Google (California)
e la seconda (dicembre 208) ospitata da ll'MIT (Boston).
Maggiori informazioni alla URL:
http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Creative_Commons_Technology_Summit_2009-06-…
cordialmente,
juan carlos de martin
Creative Commons Technology Summit 2009-06-26
Creative Commons is a non profit organization that builds tools that
help realize the full potential of the commons in the age of digital
networks. Launched at the end of 2002, Creative Commons licenses have
set the standard for sharing cultural works (i.e., "content", "media",
etc.), following in the footsteps of free and open source software. Over
the past five years we have also actively developed and contributed to
technologies that complement its public licenses, with the aim of using
software to enhance the discoverability and practical [re]usability of
content -- to help users manage content, as opposed to software designed
to help content manage users (i.e., DRM). In 2006 Creative Commons
launched Science Commons, a project applying similar principles to
science and research. ccLearn was launched in 2007 to help minimize
barriers to sharing and reuse of educational materials.
Creative Commons holds its third technology summit on June 26, 2009 at
Aula Magna Lingotto - Politecnico di Torino in Turin, Italy. Creative
Commons Technology Summits are a forum for exploration of technology
built upon and enhanced by Creative Commons licenses and work in the
Semantic Web arena.
The NEXA Center for Internet & Society is a multidisciplinary research
center of the Politecnico di Torino founded in 2006 to study the
Internet and to pioneer its development. Web site:
http://nexa.polito.it, Corso Trento 21, 10129 Torino, email:
info(a)nexa.polito.it, tel: 011.564.5956, fax: 011.564.7216.
June 4, 2009
Re: [nexa] EDRI-GRAM: The French Government wants to spy on
by Stefano Quintarelli
in realta' ad una riunione dei ministri dell'interno europei di 23 anni
fa, ricordo di avere letto, si raccomandava gia' cio' ed anche la Pisanu
per il wifi.
invito a leggere questo saggio http://is.gd/O4lV
ciao, s.
Andrea Glorioso wrote:
>>>>>> "philippe" == Philippe Aigrain <philippe.aigrain(a)sopinspace.com> writes:
>
> > As you point out, regarding the distant interception of
> > communication, the key issue lies in the judiciary a priori
> > authorization. However, there are other points in the LOPPSI2
> > proposal that raise other types of concerns, in particular the
> > compulsory filtering of entire sites based a list that is kept
> > secret.
>
> Segnalo che in Italia una lista del genere noi ce l'abbiamo da tempo:
>
> Legge 6 2006, n. 38 ("Disposizioni in materia di lotta contro lo
> sfruttamento sessuale dei bambini e la pedopornografia anche a mezzo
> Internet" (http://www.camera.it/parlam/leggi/06038l.htm)
>
> In Italia si blocca anche la cosiddetta "pornografia virtuale", ovvero
> le "immagini realizzate con tecniche di elaborazione grafica non
> associate in tutto o in parte a situazioni reali, la cui qualità di
> rappresentazione fa apparire come vere situazioni non reali" - non
> commento.
>
> Siamo arrivati primi! :)
>
> Segnalo anche le recenti conclusioni della riunioni dei ministri degli
> interni e della giustizia del G8:
>
> "Riteniamo, in particolare, che si debba considerare la possibilità
> di adottare misure aggressive quali la creazione di una blacklist di
> siti pedopornografici, finalizzata ad ostacolare la navigazione
> verso siti pedofili, e/o denuncia da parte dei provider dei servizi
> Internet, in conformità con i diversi sistemi giuridici. Tale
> blacklist potrebbe essere gestita da organizzazioni internazionali
> ed anche aggiornata e divulgata, quindi adattata, ove necessario, ed
> implementata dalle competenti organizzazioni a livello nazionale."
>
> Ciao,
>
> --
> Andrea Glorioso || http://people.digitalpolicy.it/sama/cv/
> M: +32-488-409-055 F: +39-051-930-31-133
> * Le opinioni espresse in questa mail sono del tutto personali *
> * The opinions expressed here are absolutely personal *
>
> "Constitutions represent the deliberate judgment of the
> people as to the provisions and restraints which [...] will
> secure to each citizen the greatest liberty and utmost
> protection. They are rules proscribed by
> Philip sober to control Philip drunk."
> David J. Brewer (1893)
> An Independent Judiciary as the Salvation of the Nation
>
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June 4, 2009
Re: [nexa] EDRI-GRAM: The French Government wants to spy on
by Andrea Glorioso
>>>>> "philippe" == Philippe Aigrain <philippe.aigrain(a)sopinspace.com> writes:
> As you point out, regarding the distant interception of
> communication, the key issue lies in the judiciary a priori
> authorization. However, there are other points in the LOPPSI2
> proposal that raise other types of concerns, in particular the
> compulsory filtering of entire sites based a list that is kept
> secret.
Segnalo che in Italia una lista del genere noi ce l'abbiamo da tempo:
Legge 6 2006, n. 38 ("Disposizioni in materia di lotta contro lo
sfruttamento sessuale dei bambini e la pedopornografia anche a mezzo
Internet" (http://www.camera.it/parlam/leggi/06038l.htm)
In Italia si blocca anche la cosiddetta "pornografia virtuale", ovvero
le "immagini realizzate con tecniche di elaborazione grafica non
associate in tutto o in parte a situazioni reali, la cui qualità di
rappresentazione fa apparire come vere situazioni non reali" - non
commento.
Siamo arrivati primi! :)
Segnalo anche le recenti conclusioni della riunioni dei ministri degli
interni e della giustizia del G8:
"Riteniamo, in particolare, che si debba considerare la possibilità
di adottare misure aggressive quali la creazione di una blacklist di
siti pedopornografici, finalizzata ad ostacolare la navigazione
verso siti pedofili, e/o denuncia da parte dei provider dei servizi
Internet, in conformità con i diversi sistemi giuridici. Tale
blacklist potrebbe essere gestita da organizzazioni internazionali
ed anche aggiornata e divulgata, quindi adattata, ove necessario, ed
implementata dalle competenti organizzazioni a livello nazionale."
Ciao,
--
Andrea Glorioso || http://people.digitalpolicy.it/sama/cv/
M: +32-488-409-055 F: +39-051-930-31-133
* Le opinioni espresse in questa mail sono del tutto personali *
* The opinions expressed here are absolutely personal *
"Constitutions represent the deliberate judgment of the
people as to the provisions and restraints which [...] will
secure to each citizen the greatest liberty and utmost
protection. They are rules proscribed by
Philip sober to control Philip drunk."
David J. Brewer (1893)
An Independent Judiciary as the Salvation of the Nation
June 4, 2009
Re: [nexa] EDRI-GRAM: The French Government wants to spy on
by Philippe Aigrain
As you point out, regarding the distant interception of communication, the key
issue lies in the judiciary a priori authorization. However, there are other
points in the LOPPSI2 proposal that raise other types of concerns, in
particular the compulsory filtering of entire sites based a list that is kept
secret. More generally there is a met-problem, well outlined in the
Lambrinidis report in teh EP : we must get people to keep thinking even when
they hear words such as paedophilia, nazi or terrorism.
Philippe Aigrain
Le mercredi 3 juin 2009, Balboni Gian Paolo a écrit :
> Juan Carlos,
> mi sfugge una cosa, relativa alla prima parte della notizia. Supponendo
> ovviamente che NON SPARISCA la figura del magistrato di sorveglianza che
> deve autorizzare l'operazione (se cambia l'ordinamento della giustizia il
> discorso può essere del tutto diverso...), in cosa si differenzierebbe
> questa intercettazione Internet da una classica intercettazione telefonica
> in uso da sempre? Ciao
>
> Gian Paolo
>
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> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 08:59:52 +0200
> From: "J.C. DE MARTIN" <demartin(a)polito.it>
> Subject: [nexa] EDRI-GRAM: The French Government wants to spy on
> electronic communications
> To: nexa(a)server-nexa.polito.it
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>
> E pensare che ho avuto paura di venire preso per paranoico quando ho
> sospettato che il vero obiettivo di HADOPI fosse la sorveglienza di massa.
>
> jc
>
>
> ============================================================
> 1. The French Government wants to spy on electronic communications
> ============================================================
>
> On 27 May 2009, the law on orientation and programming for the performance
> of the domestic security (Loppsi) was presented by Mich?le Alliot-Marie to
> the French Council of Ministers.
>
> The law will give the French police the possibility to physically or
> remotely install spying software to listen to electronic communications and
> introduces the Internet filtering by administrative decision.
>
> According to the text, the Criminal Investigation Police will be allowed to
> place on a suspect's computer a sort of internal or external USB key which
> will send data to the computers of the authorities. The police may also
> remotely install Trojans which will give access to all the data in a
> computer in real time.
>
> The police will be allowed to make use of these tools only in "the most
> severe cases" which however include "support given to the illegal entry and
> residence of a foreigner". Under the control of an examining magistrate
> (juge d'instruction), the investigating authority will have to justify the
> use of the technique by declaring the infringement investigated, the place
> where the investigation will take place and its duration. The spyware can
> be installed for a four-month period that can be renewed once.
>
> The examining magistrate's control would be a positive thing as the
> examining magistrates are independent from the Ministry of Justice and are
> free to take decisions, in terms of the gravity of the investigation.
> However, if the justice reform project of the French Government comes into
> being, the examining magistrates will disappear which means that the
> responsibility to authorize spyware will come to the prosecutor of the
> Republic.
>
> The law also obliges ISPs to block access, "without delay", to sites
> included on a list drafted under the authority of the Ministry of Internal
> Affairs. The list will not be made public and therefore it will be
> impossible to contest and this will create the risk of abuses.
>
> In order to prevent contestations, for the beginning, the law will target
> the paedophilic contents with the declared purpose to "protect the Internet
> users from child pornography images". The operators will have to introduce
> in their network software that will stop any connection to sites having a
> pedophile character that will be listed by the police. The French
> Government will always be able to extend the target by a simple decree.
>
> The text also stipulates severe sanctions for the ISPs that do not observe
> the law providing a fine up to 75 000 euro and a year of imprisonment.
>
> Loppsi : the sneaks under the authority of an endangered judge (only in
> French, 25.05.2009)
> http://www.numerama.com/magazine/12976-Loppsi-les-mouchards-sous-l-autorite
>-d-un-juge-en-voie-de-disparition.html
>
>
> Loppsi wants to "protect the Internet users" by filtering (only in French,
> 27.05.2009)
> http://www.numerama.com/magazine/13010-La-Loppsi-veut-proteger-les-internau
>tes-avec-le-filtrage.html
>
>
> The police will be able to pirate the computers of the yobs (only in
> French, 25.05.2009)
> http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2009/05/24/01016-20090524ARTFIG0009
>8-la-police-va-pouvoir-pirater-les-ordinateurs-des-voyous-.php
>
>
> Loppsi: ISPs will have to "block access without delay" (MAJ) (only in
> French, 27.05.2009)
> http://www.numerama.com/magazine/13004-Loppsi-les-FAI-devront-empecher-l-ac
>ces-sans-delai-MAJ.html
>
>
> Loppsi presented this Wednesday in the Council of Ministers (MAJ) (only in
> French, 27.05.2009)
> http://www.numerama.com/magazine/13002-La-Loppsi-presentee-ce-mercredi-en-c
>onseil-des-ministres.html
>
>
> Draft law on the orientation and programming for the performance of the
> domestic security
> http://static.pcinpact.com/pdf/Loppsi_projet_loi.pdf
>
> Decrypting: Sarkozy and his work of controlling the Internet (only in
> French, 20.05.2009)
> http://www.numerama.com/magazine/12948-Decryptage-Sarkozy-et-son-oeuvre-de-
>controle-du-net.html
>
>
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June 3, 2009
Re: [nexa] EDRI-GRAM: The French Government wants to spy on
by Balboni Gian Paolo
Juan Carlos,
mi sfugge una cosa, relativa alla prima parte della notizia. Supponendo ovviamente che NON SPARISCA la figura del magistrato di sorveglianza che deve autorizzare l'operazione (se cambia l'ordinamento della giustizia il discorso può essere del tutto diverso...), in cosa si differenzierebbe questa intercettazione Internet da una classica intercettazione telefonica in uso da sempre?
Ciao
Gian Paolo
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From: "J.C. DE MARTIN" <demartin(a)polito.it>
Subject: [nexa] EDRI-GRAM: The French Government wants to spy on
electronic communications
To: nexa(a)server-nexa.polito.it
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E pensare che ho avuto paura di venire preso per paranoico quando ho sospettato che il vero obiettivo di HADOPI fosse la sorveglienza di massa.
jc
============================================================
1. The French Government wants to spy on electronic communications ============================================================
On 27 May 2009, the law on orientation and programming for the performance of the domestic security (Loppsi) was presented by Mich?le Alliot-Marie to the French Council of Ministers.
The law will give the French police the possibility to physically or remotely install spying software to listen to electronic communications and introduces the Internet filtering by administrative decision.
According to the text, the Criminal Investigation Police will be allowed to place on a suspect's computer a sort of internal or external USB key which will send data to the computers of the authorities. The police may also remotely install Trojans which will give access to all the data in a computer in real time.
The police will be allowed to make use of these tools only in "the most severe cases" which however include "support given to the illegal entry and residence of a foreigner". Under the control of an examining magistrate (juge d'instruction), the investigating authority will have to justify the use of the technique by declaring the infringement investigated, the place where the investigation will take place and its duration. The spyware can be installed for a four-month period that can be renewed once.
The examining magistrate's control would be a positive thing as the examining magistrates are independent from the Ministry of Justice and are free to take decisions, in terms of the gravity of the investigation.
However, if the justice reform project of the French Government comes into being, the examining magistrates will disappear which means that the responsibility to authorize spyware will come to the prosecutor of the Republic.
The law also obliges ISPs to block access, "without delay", to sites included on a list drafted under the authority of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. The list will not be made public and therefore it will be impossible to contest and this will create the risk of abuses.
In order to prevent contestations, for the beginning, the law will target the paedophilic contents with the declared purpose to "protect the Internet users from child pornography images". The operators will have to introduce in their network software that will stop any connection to sites having a pedophile character that will be listed by the police. The French Government will always be able to extend the target by a simple decree.
The text also stipulates severe sanctions for the ISPs that do not observe the law providing a fine up to 75 000 euro and a year of imprisonment.
Loppsi : the sneaks under the authority of an endangered judge (only in French, 25.05.2009) http://www.numerama.com/magazine/12976-Loppsi-les-mouchards-sous-l-autorite…
Loppsi wants to "protect the Internet users" by filtering (only in French, 27.05.2009) http://www.numerama.com/magazine/13010-La-Loppsi-veut-proteger-les-internau…
The police will be able to pirate the computers of the yobs (only in French,
25.05.2009)
http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2009/05/24/01016-20090524ARTFIG0009…
Loppsi: ISPs will have to "block access without delay" (MAJ) (only in
French, 27.05.2009)
http://www.numerama.com/magazine/13004-Loppsi-les-FAI-devront-empecher-l-ac…
Loppsi presented this Wednesday in the Council of Ministers (MAJ) (only in
French, 27.05.2009)
http://www.numerama.com/magazine/13002-La-Loppsi-presentee-ce-mercredi-en-c…
Draft law on the orientation and programming for the performance of the
domestic security
http://static.pcinpact.com/pdf/Loppsi_projet_loi.pdf
Decrypting: Sarkozy and his work of controlling the Internet (only in
French, 20.05.2009)
http://www.numerama.com/magazine/12948-Decryptage-Sarkozy-et-son-oeuvre-de-…
Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie.
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June 3, 2009
Re: [nexa] EDRI-GRAM: The French Government wants to spy on electronic communications
by Philippe Aigrain
Le mercredi 3 juin 2009, J.C. DE MARTIN a écrit :
> E pensare che ho avuto paura di venire preso per paranoico
> quando ho sospettato che il vero obiettivo di HADOPI
> fosse la sorveglienza di massa.
You know the story of the patient who told the psychiatrist he was a grain of
wheat and terribly afraid of being eaten by a hen. The psychiatrist told him
"listen, you know very well that you are not a grain of wheat". And the
patient answered "yes, but does the hen know it ?".
In others, being paranoid does not mean they are not after you.
--
Philippe
June 3, 2009
EDRI-GRAM: The French Government wants to spy on electronic communications
by J.C. DE MARTIN
E pensare che ho avuto paura di venire preso per paranoico
quando ho sospettato che il vero obiettivo di HADOPI
fosse la sorveglienza di massa.
jc
============================================================
1. The French Government wants to spy on electronic communications
============================================================
On 27 May 2009, the law on orientation and programming for the performance
of the domestic security (Loppsi) was presented by Michèle Alliot-Marie to
the French Council of Ministers.
The law will give the French police the possibility to physically or
remotely install spying software to listen to electronic communications and
introduces the Internet filtering by administrative decision.
According to the text, the Criminal Investigation Police will be allowed to
place on a suspect's computer a sort of internal or external USB key which
will send data to the computers of the authorities. The police may also
remotely install Trojans which will give access to all the data in a
computer in real time.
The police will be allowed to make use of these tools only in "the most
severe cases" which however include "support given to the illegal entry and
residence of a foreigner". Under the control of an examining magistrate
(juge d'instruction), the investigating authority will have to justify the
use of the technique by declaring the infringement investigated, the place
where the investigation will take place and its duration. The spyware
can be
installed for a four-month period that can be renewed once.
The examining magistrate's control would be a positive thing as the
examining magistrates are independent from the Ministry of Justice and are
free to take decisions, in terms of the gravity of the investigation.
However, if the justice reform project of the French Government comes into
being, the examining magistrates will disappear which means that the
responsibility to authorize spyware will come to the prosecutor of the
Republic.
The law also obliges ISPs to block access, "without delay", to sites
included on a list drafted under the authority of the Ministry of Internal
Affairs. The list will not be made public and therefore it will be
impossible to contest and this will create the risk of abuses.
In order to prevent contestations, for the beginning, the law will target
the paedophilic contents with the declared purpose to "protect the Internet
users from child pornography images". The operators will have to introduce
in their network software that will stop any connection to sites having a
pedophile character that will be listed by the police. The French
Government
will always be able to extend the target by a simple decree.
The text also stipulates severe sanctions for the ISPs that do not observe
the law providing a fine up to 75 000 euro and a year of imprisonment.
Loppsi : the sneaks under the authority of an endangered judge (only in
French, 25.05.2009)
http://www.numerama.com/magazine/12976-Loppsi-les-mouchards-sous-l-autorite…
Loppsi wants to "protect the Internet users" by filtering (only in
French, 27.05.2009)
http://www.numerama.com/magazine/13010-La-Loppsi-veut-proteger-les-internau…
The police will be able to pirate the computers of the yobs (only in
French,
25.05.2009)
http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2009/05/24/01016-20090524ARTFIG0009…
Loppsi: ISPs will have to "block access without delay" (MAJ) (only in
French, 27.05.2009)
http://www.numerama.com/magazine/13004-Loppsi-les-FAI-devront-empecher-l-ac…
Loppsi presented this Wednesday in the Council of Ministers (MAJ) (only in
French, 27.05.2009)
http://www.numerama.com/magazine/13002-La-Loppsi-presentee-ce-mercredi-en-c…
Draft law on the orientation and programming for the performance of the
domestic security
http://static.pcinpact.com/pdf/Loppsi_projet_loi.pdf
Decrypting: Sarkozy and his work of controlling the Internet (only in
French, 20.05.2009)
http://www.numerama.com/magazine/12948-Decryptage-Sarkozy-et-son-oeuvre-de-…
June 3, 2009