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MEMENTO | 172° Mercoledì di Nexa | 8 maggio 2024, ore 17.00
by Nexa - Media May 6, 2024

May 6, 2024

Gentilissime, gentilissimi, Vi ricordiamo che mercoledì 8 maggio, alle ore 17.00, si terrà il 172° Mercoledì di Nexa con un incontro dal titolo " Evitare la trappola comportamentista e la confusione tra sistemi human-like e human-level in Intelligenza Artificiale con la Minimal Cognitive Grid". Ospite dell'incontro: Antonio Lieto (Università di Salerno). L'incontro si terrà IN PRESENZA e ONLINE. SEDE FISICA dell'incontro: Centro Nexa su Internet e Società, Politecnico di Torino, Via Boggio 65/a, Torino (1° piano). Per accedere alla sala si raccomanda di suonare al citofono Portineria e di seguire le indicazioni segnalate lungo il percorso. QUI<https://nexa.polito.it/contatti> maggiori informazioni su come raggiungerci. STANZA VIRTUALE dell'incontro: https://didattica.polito.it/VClass/NexaEvent Maggiori informazioni alla pagina: https://nexa.polito.it/mercoledi-172 Cordiali saluti, -- Valeria Bergantino Communication Officer Nexa Center for Internet & Society Politecnico di Torino - DAUIN Via Pier Carlo Boggio, 65/A - 10138 Torino web: https://nexa.polito.it/ mail: valeria.bergantino(a)polito.it<mailto:valeria.bergantino@polito.it> tel: 3473443585

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DoJ closing arguments vs Google
by J.C. DE MARTIN May 6, 2024

May 6, 2024

Jason Kint: "Department of Justice has now posted its hundreds of great slides from closing arguments. I’ll share 13 slides that tell story imho captured by this list." https://twitter.com/jason_kint/status/1787185056345444735?s=61&t=EHwcK0mTbq… Sequenza disponibile qui: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1787185056345444735.html jc

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The Current Villain: Eben Moglen & SFLC (parte 1)
by 380° May 5, 2024

May 5, 2024

Buongiorno, mi sono distratto (consapevolmente) un po' e non ero a conoscenza degli ultimi sviluppi di questo capitolo del mega-drama che stiamo vivendo. A prima vista, ma anche a seconda, potrebbe sembrare OT ma unendo i puntini credo di intravedere una specie di trama che avvolge il mondo del software libero. Brevissima (ehrm) nota di contesto: il 3 Nov 2017 Software Freedom Conservancy [1] (SFC) annuncia [2] che Software Freedom Law Center (SFLC) [3] ha avviato il procedimento 92066968 al United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) per richiedere la cancellazione del marchio di SFC [4]. La cosa creò non poco scompiglio [5] perché SFC è stata avviata da SFLC nel 2006 e le due hanno tagliato i ponti all'inizio del 2011. Tre giorni dopo SFLC risponde [5] dicendo che avrebbero volentieri conciliato prima di avviare quel procedimento ma che per tre anni i vertici di SFC si sono rifuitati di discutere quella e altre questioni. Il 22 Dic dello stesso anno SFLC propone pubblicamente un accordo a SFC che prevede l'uso gratuito del marchio a patto di un accordo di mutua non denigrazione (non-disparagement), aggiungendo che le dichiarazioni rese nella richiesta di registrazione del marchio SFC sono false e il marchio ottenuto in modo fraudolento [7], concludendo con la reiterazione di un invito a conciliare nei termini indicati. Sono passati più di sei anni all'avvio del procedimento e ancora USPTO non è arrivata al dunque, nel frattempo la faccenda è montata a tal punto da diventare non una montagna ma un'intera catena montuosa. Finalmente, ecco l'ultimo episodio (articolo lunghissimo, estraggo i punti a mio avviso salienti): https://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2023/10/11/moglen-sflc.html «Eben Moglen & SFLC — abusive employer & LGBTQIA+ unfriendly» Wednesday 11 October 2023 by Bradley M. Kuhn --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- [...] With great trepidation, I have decided to make this public statement regarding the psychological abuse, including menacing, that I suffered, perpetrated by Eben Moglen, both while I was employed at his Software Freedom Law Center (SFLC) from 2005-2010, and in the years after he fired me. No one revels in having psychological injuries and mistreatment they've suffered paraded to the public. I'll be frank that if it were not for Moglen's use of the USA Trademark Trial and Appeal Board (TTAB) as a method to perpetrate further abusive behavior, I wouldn't have written this post. Furthermore, sadly, Moglen has threatened in recent TTAB filings his intention to use the proceeding to release personal details about my life to the public (using the litigation itself as a lever). I have decided to preemptively make public the facts herein first myself — so that I can at least control the timing and framing of the information. This post is long; the issues discussed in it are complicated, nuanced, and cannot be summed up easily. Nevertheless, I'm realistic that most people will stop reading soon, so I'll summarize now as best I can in a few sentences: I worked initially with, and then /for/, Eben Moglen for nearly a decade — during which time he was psychologically abusive and gaslighted me (under the guise of training and mentoring me). I thought for many years that he was one of my best friends (— in retrospect, I believe that he tricked me into believing that he was). As such, I shared extremely personal details about myself to him — which he has used both contemporaneously and in years hence to attempt to discredit me with my colleagues and peers. Recently, Moglen declared his plans to use current TTAB proceedings to force me to answer questions about my mental health in deposition. Long ago, I disclosed key personal information to Moglen, I therefore have a pretty good idea of what his next move will be during that deposition questioning. Specifically, I believe Moglen was hoping to out me as omni/bisexual as part of my deposition in this proceeding. As such, I'm outing myself here first (primarily) to disarm his ability to use what he knows about my sexual orientation against me. Since that last sentence makes me already out, Moglen will be unable to use the biggest “secret” that Moglen “has on me” in his future psychological and legal attacks. I suspect some folks will stop reading here, but I really urge that you keep reading this post, and also to read the unrelated statement made by [Conservancy] and [FSFE]. The details are important and matter. I am admittedly embarrassed to talk publicly about how Moglen exacerbated, expanded, and caused new symptoms of my Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) — which I already suffered from when I met him. But, I feel it is important to talk about these issues publicly for many reasons [...] The primary recent catalyst for this situation is as follows: Moglen has insisted that, as part of the ongoing [trademark cancellation petition that SFLC filed against my employer, Software Freedom Conservancy] in the [TTAB], that Moglen both personally be allowed to be present at, and to actually /take/ the depositions of me and my colleague, Karen Sandler. This kind of behavior is typical of how abusers use litigation to perpetuate their abuse. The USA legal system is designed to give everyone “their day in Court”. Frankly, many of the rules established for Court proceedings did not contemplate that the process could be manipulated by abusers, and it remains an open problem on how to repair the rules that both preserve the egalitarian nature of our legal system, but also does not make it easy for abusers to misuse those same rules. Depositions, in particular, are a key tool in abusers' arsenals. [...] The only method (which is quite clunky as a legal tool) to curtail the harassment somewhat is called a /protective order/. However, Moglen has been smart enough to use the very process of the protective order application to further perpetuate abusive behavior. [...] Moglen has attempted to use the proceeding as a method to harass and attack me and my colleague, Karen Sandler — regarding issues wholly unrelated to the trademarks. The recent arguments have been about our depositions — mine and Karen's. After some complex legal back-and-forth, Judge [Elgin ordered that I was legally required to sit for a deposition with and by Moglen]. This is the point where a catch-22 began for me. • Option 0: Sit in a room for 8+ hours with a person who had spent years verbally abusing me and let him ask me /any question he wants/ — under penalty of perjury and contempt of Court if I refuse. • Option 1: Give Conservancy's lawyers permission to talk openly, in public documents, about the details of the abuse I suffered from Moglen and the psychological harm that it caused me (which is the necessary backup document for a protective order motion). IOW, the only way to get a protective order that would prevent me from being legally required to suffer further psychological abuse from Moglen was to publicly talk about the past abuse 😩. I reluctantly chose Option 1. [...] Fortunately, that aforementioned sworn testimony was sufficient to convince Judge Elgin to at least entertain reconsidering her decision that I have to sit for a deposition with Moglen. However, submitting the official motion /then/ required that I give even /more/ information about why the deposition with Moglen will be psychologically harmful. In particular, I had little choice but to add a letter from my (highly qualified) mental health provider speaking to the psychological dangers that I would face if deposed by Moglen personally and/or in his presence. I reluctantly asked my therapist to [provide such a letter]. [...] As can be seen in Moglen's response filing, [Moglen directly attacks my therapist's credentials — claiming she is not credible nor qualified]. Moglen's argument is that because my therapist is a licensed, [AASECT]-certified sex therapist, she is not qualified to diagnose PTSD. Of course, Moglen's argument is without merit: my therapist's sex therapy credentials are in addition to her many other credentials and certifications — all of which is explained on her website that Moglen admits in his filing he has reviewed. As I mentioned, at one time, I foolishly and erroneously considered Moglen a good friend. As such, I told Moglen a lot about my personal life, including that I was omni/bisexual, and that I was (at the time) closeted. So, Moglen already knows full well the reason that I would select a therapist who held among her credentials a certification to give therapy relating to sexuality. Moglen's filing is, in my view, a veiled threat to me that he's going to disclose publicly what he knows about my sexuality as part of this proceeding. So, I've decided — after much thought — that I should simply disarm him on this and say it first: I have identified as bisexual/omnisexual since 1993 [...] Despite the serious psychological abuse I've suffered from Moglen, until this recent filing, I wouldn't have imagined that Moglen would attempt to use the secrecy about my LGBTQIA+ status as a way to further terrorize me. [...] The fact that he [goes on to further claim that the mere fact that she has such certification makes her unqualified] to treat my other mental health illness — some of which Moglen himself (in part) personally caused — is unconscionable. [...] Moglen has insisted now that my therapy has been brought up in the proceeding, that [he has a legal right to force me to be evaluated by a therapist of his choosing] (as if I were a criminal defendant). [...] Now, /even if/ the judge grants Conservancy's motion to exclude Moglen from my deposition, Moglen will instruct his attorneys to ask me those questions about my therapy and my sexual orientation — with the obvious goal of seeking to embarrass me by forcing me to reveal such things publicly. [...] I am aghast that Moglen is trying to shame me for seeking help from a mental health provider who could help me overcome my internalized shame regarding my sexual orientation. I also want people to know that I did not feel safe as a queer person when I worked for Eben Moglen at SFLC. But I also know Moglen doesn't represent what our FOSS community and software freedom is about. I felt I needed to make this post not only to disarm the power Moglen held to “out me” before I was ready, but also to warn others that, in my opinion, Software Freedom Law Center (SFLC) as an organization that is *not* a safe space for LGBTQIA+ folks. Finally, I do know that Moglen is also a tenured professor at Columbia Law School. I have so often worried about his students — who may, as I did, erroneously believe they can trust Moglen with private information as important as their LGBTQIA+ status. I simply felt I couldn't stay silent about my experiences in good conscience any longer. ―――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――― Footnote added *2023-10-12, 19:00 US/Eastern*: Since I posted this about 30 hours ago, I've gotten so many statements of support emailed to me that I can't possibly respond to them all, but I'll try. Meanwhile, a few people have hinted at and/or outright asked what policy disagreements Moglen actually has with me. I was reluctant to answer because the point I'm making in this post is that /even if/ Moglen thought every last thing I've ever done in my career was harmful policy-wise, it *still would not justify* these abusive behaviors. Nevertheless, I admit that if this post were made by someone else, I'd be curious about what the policy disagreements were, so I decided to answer the question. I think that my overarching policy disagreement with Eben Moglen is with regard to how and when to engage in enforcement of the GPL and other copyleft licenses through litigation. I think Moglen explains this policy disagreement best in [his talk that the Linux Foundation contemporaneously promoted (and continues to regularly reference) entitled “Whither (Not Wither) Copyleft”]. In this talk, Moglen states that I (among others) are “on a jihad for free software” (his words, direct quote) because we continued to pursue GPL enforcement through litigation. While I agree that [litigation should still remain the last resort], I do think it remains a necessary step often. Moglen argues that even though litigation was needed in the past, it should never be used again for copyleft and GPL enforcement. As Moglen outlines in his talk, he supports the concept of “spontaneous compliance” — a system whereby there is no regulatory regime and firms simply chose to follow the rules of copyleft because it's so obviously in their own best interest. I've not seen this approach work in practice, which is why I think we must still sometimes file GPL (and LGPL) lawsuits — [even today]. Moglen and I have plenty of other smaller policy disagreements: from appropriate copyright assignment structures for FOSS, to finer points of how GPLv3 should have been drafted, to tactics and strategy with regard to copyleft advocacy, to how non-profits and charities should be structured for the betterment of FOSS. However, I suspect all these smaller policy disagreements stem from our fundamental policy disagreement about GPL enforcement. However, I conclude by (a) saying again *no policy disagreement with anyone justifies abusive behavior toward that person — not ever*, and (b) please do note the irony that, in that 2016-11-02 speech, Moglen took the position that lawsuits should no longer be used to settle disputes in FOSS, and yet — less than 10 months later — [Moglen sued Conservancy (his former client) in the TTAB]. Posted on Wednesday 11 October 2023 at 13:15 by Bradley M. Kuhn. Submit comments on this post to [[<mailto:bkuhn@ebb.org>][]]. --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Freedom_Conservancy [2] https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2017/nov/03/sflc-legal-action/ [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Freedom_Law_Center [4] https://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?qt=adv&procstatus=All&pno=92066968 [5] https://www.theregister.com/2017/11/20/foss_sflc_sfc_gpl_trademark/ [6] https://softwarefreedom.org/blog/2017/nov/06/conservancy-stmt/ [7] https://softwarefreedom.org/blog/2017/dec/22/conservancy/ -- 380° (Giovanni Biscuolo public alter ego) «Noi, incompetenti come siamo, non abbiamo alcun titolo per suggerire alcunché» Disinformation flourishes because many people care deeply about injustice but very few check the facts. Ask me about <https://stallmansupport.org>.

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Google fired a software engineer over an anti-war demonstration — he says he wasn’t even protesting
by J.C. DE MARTIN May 5, 2024

May 5, 2024

*Google fired a software engineer over an anti-war demonstration — he says he wasn’t even protesting * /In an NLRB complaint filed today, more than 50 other employees have alleged unlawful retaliation and are asking for their jobs back. / By Gaby Del Valle, a policy reporter. Her past work has focused on immigration politics, border surveillance technologies, and the rise of the New Right. Apr 30, 2024, 9:57 PM GMT+2 A software engineer who was fired from Google in connection to internal protests at the company’s offices says the company retaliated against him for merely watching the demonstration against an Israeli defense contract. The former employee, who asked to remain anonymous, said he went to the lounge on the 10th floor of Google’s New York City office around lunchtime to check out the protest. “When I got there, there were probably 20-ish people sitting on the floor. I didn’t talk to any of them, I talked to folks who were standing up, passing out flyers, doing other roles,” he said, adding that the protesters were wearing matching T-shirts. [...] continua qui: https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/30/24145680/google-workers-fired-project-ni…

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Venezia, contributo di accesso e Smart Control Room - Smart Controlled - Ep1
by Fabio Alemagna May 4, 2024

May 4, 2024

Segnalo questa interessante inchiesta giornalistica di Alberto Puliafito e suoi collaboratori, in merito alla sorveglianza e tracciamento delle persone, con relative implicazioni sulla privacy. Qui il link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKFC0pvBsxA La sinossi: «Si può tracciare un telefono con i dati di geolocalizzazione dello smartphone? Le "smart city" sono un rischio per la libertà e la privacy delle persone? Il caso di Venezia: la Smart Control Room e il contributo di accesso dal 25 aprile 2024. La Smart Control Room di Venezia è stata finanziata anche con i fondi della politica di coesione europea, la più grande politica di redistribuzione della ricchezza in Europa, pensata per contrastare le disuguaglianze, migliorare le condizioni di vita nelle aree dove ci sono contesti di minore sviluppo, rafforzare la coesione economica, sociale e territoriale. Ma è questo che fa la Smart Control Room? È davvero un aiuto per tutte le persone che vivono Venezia e per la città?»

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Forum InformatikerInnen für Frieden und gesellschaftliche Verantwortung: Abbassare la soglia di inibizione attraverso il ricorso all'intelligenza artificiale è un crimine di guerra
by Daniela Tafani May 4, 2024

May 4, 2024

Position paper (in tedesco) del forum tedesco degli scienziati informatici per la pace e la responsabilità sociale: Il Forum scienziati informatici per la pace e la responsabilità sociale, il Gruppo di lavoro contro i droni armati e il Centro d'informazione sulla militarizzazione chiedono che la pratica dell'uccisione mirata con sistemi di supporto come Lavender sia considerata un crimine di guerra. Citazione in exergo: Persone, cose ed eventi diventano "dati programmabili". Si tratta di "input" e "output", variabili, percentuali, processi e simili, fino a quando ogni connessione con le cose concrete viene eliminata e rimangono solo grafici astratti, colonne di numeri ed espressioni. Joseph Weizenbaum Qui il testo: https://blog.fiff.de/content/files/2024/04/2024_04_29_Stellungnahme-lavende…

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Zuckerman v. Meta Platforms, Inc.
by J.C. DE MARTIN May 3, 2024

May 3, 2024

Zuckerman v. Meta Platforms, Inc. A case arguing that Section 230 protects tools that empower people to control what they see on social media. https://knightcolumbia.org/cases/zuckerman-v-meta-platforms-inc On May 1, 2024, the Knight Institute filed a lawsuit on behalf of Ethan Zuckerman—a professor of public policy, communication, and information at the University of Massachusetts Amherst—asking the court to recognize that Section 230 protects the development of tools that empower social media users to control what they see online. Professor Zuckerman would like to release a tool called Unfollow Everything 2.0, a browser extension that would allow Facebook users to automatically unfollow their friends, groups, and pages, and, in doing so, to effectively turn off their newsfeeds, which Facebook algorithmically sorts to drive user engagement. The tool would also enable people to donate their data to an academic research study that explores how this increased control affects user behavior and well-being. Zuckerman hasn’t released the tool, however, out of fear that Meta will sue him if he does so, as it threatened to do when a U.K.-based developer released a similar tool called Unfollow Everything. The lawsuit asks the court to declare that Section 230 immunizes Zuckerman from civil liability for releasing Unfollow Everything 2.0. In the alternative, it asks the court to declare that the tool does not violate Meta’s Terms of Service, the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, or California’s Computer Data Access and Fraud Act. *Status: *Complaint filed on May 1, 2024. *Case Information: */Zuckerman v. Meta Platforms/, No. 3:24-cv-02596 (N.D. Cal.)*/ /* */PRESS STATEMENT: https://knightcolumbia.org/content/new-lawsuit-seeks-to-wrestle-control-of-… /* */ /* */ /*

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Re: [nexa] The United Nations ditches Big Tech in a bid for security
by alessandro marzocchi May 2, 2024

May 2, 2024

In due non andiamo da nessuna parte ... Comunque, grazie. Cordialità Duccio (Alessandro Marzocchi) Il giorno gio 2 mag 2024 alle ore 17:36 <nexa-request(a)server-nexa.polito.it> ha scritto: > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 17:36:43 +0200 > From: Damiano Verzulli <damiano(a)verzulli.it> > To: nexa(a)server-nexa.polito.it > Subject: Re: [nexa] The United Nations ditches Big Tech in a bid for > security > Message-ID: <7eb3db2c-3d77-40d3-ac6f-4b0b7943080e(a)verzulli.it> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > Il 02/05/24 8:24 AM, alessandro marzocchi ha scritto: > > Grazie Damiano, nessuna risposta alla seconda domanda > > *** > > > A tutti domando: una raccolta di firme? Almeno per chiedere ai > > > candidati la loro opinione ed un impegno. > > *** > > ...io potrei pure dedicarci del tempo (a mettere in piedi quello che > serve [per raccogliere queste firme]).... ma resto comunque un banale > tecnico: serve qualcuno che prenda in mano la parte politica e la porti > avanti... E li, io sono totalmente ignorante! > > Quindi... non ti rispondo. Ma se vorrai farlo... ed avrai bisogno di una > spalla tecnica, io potrei pure esserci :-) > > Un caro saluto, > DV > > -- > Damiano Verzulli > e-mail:damiano@verzulli.it > --- > possible?ok:while(!possible){open_mindedness++} > --- > "...I realized that free software would not generate the kind of > income that was needed. Maybe in USA or Europe, you may be able > to get a well paying job as a free software developer, but not > here [in Africa]..." -- Guido Sohne - 1973-2008 > http://ole.kenic.or.ke/pipermail/skunkworks/2008-April/005989.html > >

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Re: [nexa] "...and... We've left the cloud!" - David Heinemeier Hansson / 37signals
by Giuseppe Attardi May 2, 2024

May 2, 2024

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Re: [nexa] The United Nations ditches Big Tech in a bid for security
by alessandro marzocchi May 2, 2024

May 2, 2024

Grazie Damiano, nessuna risposta alla seconda domanda *** > A tutti domando: una raccolta di firme? Almeno per chiedere ai > candidati la loro opinione ed un impegno. *** Cordialmente Duccio (Alessandro Marzocchi) Il giorno gio 2 mag 2024 alle ore 00:07 <nexa-request(a)server-nexa.polito.it> ha scritto: > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 00:07:39 +0200 > From: Damiano Verzulli <damiano(a)verzulli.it> > To: nexa(a)server-nexa.polito.it > Subject: Re: [nexa] The United Nations ditches Big Tech in a bid for > security > Message-ID: <0447dcf8-55b5-49d4-8a75-c26897549dce(a)verzulli.it> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > Il 29/04/24 7:00 PM, alessandro marzocchi ha scritto: > > Domando a Damiano di tradurre in numeri, ordini di grandezza, la sua > > idea di costi. > > Duccio, > > provo a rispondere descrivendo la mia esperienza diretta e, in > fondo, aggiungendo alcuni commenti. > > * peertube e mastodon, da me installati in GARRLab, girano (...insieme > ad altre cose) su un server virtuale creato all'interno dello spazio > che --molto gentilmente-- GARR ha reso disponibile a GARRLab > nell'ambito del proprio servizio GARR-Cloud; > * il server in questione (sul quale, ripeto, girano *ANCHE* altre > cose) ha 8GB di RAM, 100 GB di disco e 4 CPU (virtuali) > > L'installazione di entrambi i software è stata fatta utilizzando la > tecnologia "a microservizi (docker)", attraverso un tool automatico > (ansible). Detto in parole povere, ho lavorato una mezza giornata a > preparare letteralmente tre file: > > * peertube: il file "deploy_tube.yml" ha 119 righe > * mastodon: il file "00_deploy_mastodon.yml" (211 righe che si fanno > carico dell'installzione) + il file "80_init_mastodon_web.yml" (61 > righe che si fanno carico della configurazione iniziale) > > dopodiché ho lanciato tre comandi (tre, di numero) che, a partire dai > tre file di cui sopra, in meno di 3 minuti hanno prodotto il risultato > atteso (installazione e attivazione dei servizi). > > Ovviamente la mezza giornata... ora *NON* serve piu': se qualcuno vuole > ripetere l'operazione, puo' semplicemente prendere i miei file e > "adattarli" al proprio contesto (ad esempio, cambiando il nome a dominio > da associare al sito). > > Lascio a te il calcolo dei costi. Sottolineo, pero', che... se > consideriamo la mia attivita' come "volontariato" (e quindi gratuita), > l'operazione *NON* ha aumentato i costi di GARR, in quanto i server > "fisici" che erogano GARR-Cloud, erano accesi e funzionanti... > indipendentemente dalla presenza o meno dei miei peertube e mastodon. La > banda consumata e lo storage consumato, inoltre, sono trascurabili > rispetto al quadro generale. Non è azzardato sostenere, quindi, che nel > caso specifico di GARRLab... il tutto è stato fatto A COSTO ZERO (resto > aperto al confronto, qualora qualcuno volesse sostenere il contrario). > > > Per tutti coloro che *NON* possono beneficiare di GARR-Cloud e che, > quindi, dovrebbero "andare sul mercato" a recuperare capacita' di > calcolo, storage e connettivita' Internet.... la soluzione è quella di > acquistare un VPS - Virtual Private Server, ossia un server "virtuale" > che un qualche cloud-provider mette a disposizione (esattamente come > GARR-Cloud ha fatto per GARRLab). > > Dato che siamo in Italia/Europa, le prime opzioni che mi vengono in > mente sono: > > * Hetzner (Germania): un VPS con 4 CPU virtuali, 8 GB di RAM e 160GB > di disco, cuba 16,59 €/mese => € 199,08/anno [1] > * Aruba (Italia): un VPS con 4 CPU virtuali, 8 GB di RAM e 80GB di > disco, cuba 14,38 €/mese => € 173 /anno [2] > * Seeweb (Italia): un VPS con 4 CPU virtuali, 4 GB di RAM e 80 GB di > disco, cuba 42,7 €/mese => € 512 /anno [3] > > Ad onor del vero, le tre soluzioni qui sopra sono *MIGLIORI* rispetto > all'attuale server che ho a disposizione, in quanto il relativo storage > è di classe superiore (il mio è rotativo; queste tre soluzioni hanno > storage "flash"). > > Di nuovo, lascio te valutare se questi costi sono paragonabili a quelli > della cancelleria di EDPS... > > > Scherzi a parte, è chiaro che il problema *NON* è questo costo. Anche > perché, nel caso di EDPS (da cui siamo partiti), la probabilita' che > EDPS gestisca gia' una infrastruttura corposa, fatta di decine di server > fisici, che gia' consumano migliaia di Kw/anno... è elevatissima. Di > fatto, quindi, è sostenibile la tesi che EDPS --per questo servizio > specifico-- *NON* sosterrebbe costi aggiuntivi, esattamente come per > GARR-Cloud... > > > Il problema --piuttosto-- va trovato nella "gestione". > > Tutti diranno: "Ma chi si occupera' di gestire questi servizi? Chi si > occupera' di aggiornarli? Chi avra' la responsabilita' o l'onere di > garantire l'opportunita' dei contenuti?" > > E' chiaro che stiamo passando dai problemi "economici" (inesistenti!) a > quelli "tecnici" (come li installiamo e li facciamo funzionare?) e ora a > quelli "politici/organizzativi" (chi li gestisce?). > > A questo livello... quello che io posso dire --anche con una certa > energia-- è che con i numeri limitatissimi che lo stesso EDPS dichiara > [4], la gestione di un attrezzo del genere puo' essere demandata anche > all'ultimo stagista neo-diplomato... seguito da un tecnico (gia' attivo > presso EDPS) per, diciamo, 2/3 FTE mese (ossia, due/tre giornate > lavorative, full-time, ogni mese). > > È di questo che stiamo parlando.... Ed è per questo che dico: "EDPS > spende piu' per la cancelleria". > > Inutile aggiungere che... tutto l'ambaradan avrebbe impatto trascurabile > anche per il piu' piccolo dei nostri Atenei (in *TUTTI* gli Atenei > esiste gia' una infrastruttura piu' che sufficiente a erogare *ANCHE* > questo servizio).... > > > È chiaro, quindi... che il problema è di natura diversa e... noi, > semplicemente, qui in lista, lo ignoriamo (o facciamo finta di > ignorarlo) :-) > > Un caro saluto, > DV > > P.S.: se qualcosa non è chiaro, non esitare a chiedere (Duccio, > intendo.... Ma anche gli altri) :-) > > > [1] https://www.hetzner.com/cloud/ => Shared vCPU (x86) => CPX31 > > [2] https://www.cloud.it/server-virtuali.aspx => Cloud VPS > OpenStack/Linux => VPSO4A8 (11,79 + IVA) > > [3] https://www.seeweb.it/prodotti/cloud-server-shared-cpu => ECS3 ( > 35,00 + IVA) > > [4] "/...By the end of the pilot project, EU Voice hosted 40 > institutional accounts, including EU Commissioners and Members of the > European Parliament, and EU Video hosted 6 accounts, making EUIs the > largest group of public bodies present on the Fediverse globally.../." - > > https://www.edps.europa.eu/press-publications/press-news/press-releases/202… > > > > > > > A tutti domando: una raccolta di firme? Almeno per chiedere ai > > candidati la loro opinione ed un impegno. > > Gli anni li ho ma continuo a credere nell'impegno civico. > > Auguri di cuore, Europa. > > Duccio (Alessandro Marzocchi) > > > > > > Il giorno lun 29 apr 2024 alle ore 17:37 > > <nexa-request(a)server-nexa.polito.it> ha scritto: > > > > Send nexa mailing list submissions to > > nexa(a)server-nexa.polito.it > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://server-nexa.polito.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nexa > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > nexa-request(a)server-nexa.polito.it > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > nexa-owner(a)server-nexa.polito.it > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of nexa digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. The United Nations ditches Big Tech in a bid for security > > (Antonio Vetro') > > 2. Re: The United Nations ditches Big Tech in a bid for security > > (Damiano Verzulli) > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2024 12:54:55 +0000 > > From: "Antonio Vetro'" <antonio.vetro(a)polito.it> > > To: mailing list nexa <nexa(a)server-nexa.polito.it> > > Subject: [nexa] The United Nations ditches Big Tech in a bid for > > security > > Message-ID: <2AAB2F49-FB99-4200-BC4C-5C9E664FAFC8(a)polito.it> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > > > https://www.techradar.com/pro/the-united-nations-ditches-big-tech-in-a-bid-… > > UNICC has chosen Element to secure its communications > > > > Controcorrente … > > > > > > AV > >

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