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archivi della lista, era: Stefano Rodotà..
by M. Fioretti Aug. 2, 2025

Aug. 2, 2025

On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 10:51:31 AM +0200, 380° via nexa wrote: > [1] sempre che gli archivi di questa ML siano ancora disponibili, perché > adesso https://nexa.polito.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nexa restituisce > un bel errore 404; la lista è elencata qui: > https://nexa.polito.it/get-involved/social-media-mailing-lists/ Al momento in cui scrivo il primo link che citi da' ancora 404, ma cliccando sulla prima mailing list nexa nel secondo link arrivi qui: https://server-nexa.polito.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nexa e da li' cliccando su "Archivi della lista nexa": https://server-nexa.polito.it/pipermail/nexa/ c'e' tutto Marco

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CfP - Scelta e IA
by Alessio Rocchi Aug. 1, 2025

Aug. 1, 2025

Buon pomeriggio nexiani/e. Condivido con voi questo Call for Papers con scadenza 15/09 della rivista di studi transdisciplinari di IUSTO. Se lo desiderate, inoltrate pure a chiunque possa essere interessato. Auguro un mese di agosto ritemprante! Alessio Alessio Rocchi Amministratore Delegato IUSTO - *IUSTO Chief Executive Officer* Professore aggregato di Pedagogia - *Associate Professor of Pedagogy* Coordinatore europeo IUS - *IUS **European Coordinator* -- <http://www.ius.to/> *IUSTO - Istituto Universitario Salesiano Torino Rebaudengo* aggregato alla *Facoltà di Scienze dell'Educazione dell'Università Pontificia Salesiana* in Roma Agenzia Formativa* *accreditata dalla *Regione Piemonte* Piazza Conti di Rebaudengo, 22 - 10155 Torino Tel: +39 011 2340083 (Lun-Ven 10.00-13.30 - 14.30-17.00) www.ius.to <http://www.ius.to/> ___________________________________________ Questo messaggio è stato inviato da IUSTO e può contenere informazioni di carattere estremamente riservato e confidenziale. Le informazioni contenute in questa e-mail sono dirette essenzialmente alla/e persona/e o all'istituzione menzionate nell'oggetto e/o corpo del messaggio. Qualora chi lo riceva non ne fosse il destinatario, è pregato di informarci immediatamente tramite e-mail/telefono/fax e di eliminare il presente messaggio con gli eventuali allegati, senza trattenerne copia. Qualsiasi utilizzo non autorizzato del contenuto di questo messaggio costituisce violazione dell'obbligo di non prendere cognizione della corrispondenza tra altri soggetti, salvo più grave illecito, ed espone il responsabile alle relative conseguenze civili e penali. Si rammenta infine che la conservazione e la riproduzione del presente messaggio, qualora contenga dati personali, è soggetta al regolamento UE 2016/679 e a tutte le vigenti norme in materia di protezione dei dati personali. <http://www.ius.to/index.php/news-eventi-iusto/69-notizie/891-dona-il-tuo-5x…>

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Re: [nexa] Blocco all’HTML
by karlessi Aug. 1, 2025

Aug. 1, 2025

> Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2025 09:13:16 +0200 > From: Andrea Trentini <andrea.trentini(a)unimi.it> > To: Giuseppe Attardi <attardi(a)di.unipi.it>, nexa > <nexa(a)server-nexa.polito.it> > Subject: Re: [nexa] Blocco all’HTML > Message-ID: <f075ecd5-7fda-4df6-916d-5a02dfafac41(a)unimi.it> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > -1 (MENO UNO!!!) -1 (meno un altro) > > io bandirei in toto HTML dalle mail, se possibile metterei proprio un ban automatico a chi invia in > HTML... sul ban automatico anche no, nel senso che magari c'è chi non lo sa e gli va spiegato, che HTML NON è adatto alle mail HTML è un linguaggio per ipertesti, va bene pe ril web, per quanto non sia standard, peccato nelle mail, HTML è molto utile per: - pubblicità > non mi interessa / vorrei evitarla - cose colorate ecc > non mi interessano / vorrei evitarle - è molto più pesante del semplice testo > maggiori costi di stoccaggio ecc. - cose malevole > è molto più difficile il phising ecc. senza HTML le persone oggi sono generalmente abituate a consultare la posta via web (== gmail). ciò IMHO è male perché è semplicemente uno strato in più inutile quando non dannoso, per cui le persone pensano che le mail stiano sul web, mentre invece stanno su internet (al limite c'è uno strato web aggiunto). un client è meglio, anche per ragioni pedagogiche, per imparare che non tutto è web ed è bene così: +diversità tecnica alimenta un'evoluzione tecnica variegata invece della monocoltura tecnica unica :D quando mostro alle studenti il client di post sul computer che impiego, rimangono stupite di quanto sia scarno. un po' come lo smartphone senza notifiche, in super-risparmio energetico e senza colori. I bambini che lo prendono in mano lo posano subito: non ci sono colori, non ci sono suoni, non si eccita il circuito dopaminergico. Risolto il problema della "dipendenza"? Non esageriamo, però, però, tante cose si posson fare. Cmq Non vorrei eccitarlo, il sistema dopaminergico, tramite mail piene di faccine, colori, link che vanno chissà dove in quanto nascosti via HTML malevolo. Proprio perché ci sono automatismi tecnici implementati nei sistemi "moderni" che spingono in quella direzione mi pare sensato evitarlo. senza barricate eh. se viene implementato HTML cmq io invierò e riceverò solo testo - finché sarà possibile farlo :D buona giornata k. > > (e su Thunderbird mi è capitato di sbagliare config e inviare in HTML per poi scoprire che il mio > quoting veniva "sminchiato" (TM) e il destinatario vedeva un messaggio apparentemente vuoto) idem. disdicevole, invero. PS: aneddoto personale. Durante una breve esperienza lavorativa (pochi mesi, poi mi trovarono una borsa di dottorato per levarmi di torno) nel quadro del progetto EG4M (UNIMIB), il professore che dirigeva la baracca mi mandava mail che non riuscivo ad aprire, e sosteneva che non fossi capace. Professore importante di DB ecc ecc. Ecco, inviava mail da 15-20MB (15 anni fa...), abituato a fare drag&drop dei file da allegare (ma perché allegare? sono mattoni legati a una cartolina, gli allegati alla mail in chiaro... fai un link a un repo/cloud, è meglio) nel corpo del messaggio. il mio client si rifiutava di visualizzarli e non riuscivo a scaricarli, con estensioni XLS ecc. senza HTML ciò è difficile o impossibile. -- transizioni digitali sostenibili - https://eudema.net pedagogia hacker - https://eleuthera.it/ph https://circex.org tecnologie conviviali - https://eleuthera.it/tc

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Re: [nexa] GDPR could protect us from the AI Act
by Giuseppe Attardi July 31, 2025

July 31, 2025

Ho sempre sostenuto e contestato direttamente anche a voce con i relatori dell’AI Act, che l’impostaziine della norma fosse sbagliata. Invece di definire dei diritti, come stabilisce la GDPR, indipendentemente dal modo con cui questi diritti possano essere violati, l’AI Act ha un approccio “risk based”, in cui si elencano le applicazioni che producono danni. Questo comporta complicazioni burocratiche come l’introduzione dell’AI Office per mantenere aggiornato l’elenco. Sono quindi pienamente d’accordo con questa critica: The AI Act's approach to the protection of fundamental rights is based on a profound misconception of the law: for the law to protect a right means to protect against the violation of that right, as Mireille Hildebrandt reminds us, and harm is by no means a condition for the violation of a fundamental right. Under the AI Act's harm approach to fundamental rights impact assessment, fundamental rights can be violated with impunity as long as there is no foreseeable harm. Requiring only a risk impact assessment is like being satisfied with asking whether a despot is benevolent or malevolent: freedom, understood as the absence of domination, is lost whatever the answer. Purtroppo ogni volta che ho sollevato questa obiezione di fronte a dei giuristi, tutti hanno sminuito la questione, dicendo che dietro ogni legge ci sono dei diritti. Peccato che quei diritti non siano espressi né indicati esplicitamente nell’AI Act. Quindi come si fa a fare capire questo errore originale di impostazione di una norma che tutti lodano indiscrminatamente? — GA > On 30 Jul 2025, at 12:00, nexa-request(a)server-nexa.polito.it wrote: > > Send nexa mailing list submissions to > nexa(a)server-nexa.polito.it > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://server-nexa.polito.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nexa > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nexa-request(a)server-nexa.polito.it > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nexa-owner(a)server-nexa.polito.it > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of nexa digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. R: "Stefano Rodotà (appositamente richiamato > dall’Aldilà mentre giocava a scacchi)" (Daniela Tafani) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2025 09:27:22 +0000 > From: Daniela Tafani <daniela.tafani(a)unipi.it> > To: Giacomo Tesio <giacomo(a)tesio.it>, "nexa(a)server-nexa.polito.it" > <nexa(a)server-nexa.polito.it>, 380° <g380(a)biscuolo.net> > Subject: [nexa] R: "Stefano Rodotà (appositamente richiamato > dall’Aldilà mentre giocava a scacchi)" > > Buongiorno, 380°, > > ________________________________________ > Da: nexa per conto di 380° via nexa > >> non me ne vogliano i membri e i sostenitori del GPDP ma >> l'istituzione è decisamente troppo presa sul serio; dire che le >> aspettative nei confronti del GPDP sono illusorie è eufemistico. > > > Quando un diritto è sistematicamente violato, le norme e le istituzioni che almeno in parte lo tutelino > dovrebbero forse essere prese più sul serio, non meno (anche se capisco il senso della tua nota). > > E trovo eloquente il fatto che le prenda molto sul serio chi si sobbarca la fatica di lavorare per cancellarle. > Ne ho scritto qui: > > GDPR could protect us from the AI Act. That's why it's under attack > <https://zenodo.org/records/14002329> > > Un caro saluto, > Daniela >

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China summons chip giant Nvidia over alleged security risks
by 380° July 31, 2025

July 31, 2025

Buonasera, questo significa (anche) che è _praticamente ovvio_ che una discreta quantità di "chip" [1] esportati in EU siano dotati di tracking e backdoors :-O [2] https://english.almayadeen.net/news/technology/china-summons-chip-giant-nvi…> «China summons chip giant Nvidia over alleged security risks» --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- China questions Nvidia over security risks in H20 AI chips sold to the Chinese market, raising concerns amid the ongoing US-China tech rivalry. Chinese authorities summoned US tech giant Nvidia on Thursday over serious security concerns related to its H20 artificial intelligence (AI) chips, as tensions escalate in the ongoing technological standoff between Beijing and Washington. The Cyberspace Administration of China (CAC), the country's top internet regulator, announced it had engaged Nvidia in discussions following the discovery of potential vulnerabilities and backdoors in its H20 chips, a version specifically developed for the Chinese market. The CAC issued a public statement on social media confirming that Nvidia was asked to explain the security risks tied to the H20 chips and to submit relevant technical documentation for review. The chips, [designed with downgraded capabilities to comply with US export restrictions], have now become a flashpoint in the broader debate over Nvidia H20 chip security. "The company has been asked to explain the security risks of vulnerabilities and backdoors in its H20 chips sold to China and submit relevant supporting materials," the statement read. Chinese regulators cited reports from US experts, noting that location tracking and remote shutdown [technologies for Nvidia's AI chips] "are already matured." [designed with downgraded capabilities to comply with US export restrictions] <https://english.almayadeen.net/news/technology/nvidia-ai-chips-repair-indus…> [technologies for Nvidia's AI chips] <file:Nvidia’s%20AI%20chips> 1.1 Nvidia's return to the Chinese market draws scrutiny ──────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Earlier this month, Nvidia [said it would resume H20 sales in China] after the US government signaled it would lift some of the licensing restrictions that had previously blocked such exports. The H20 chip is a less powerful version of Nvidia's top-tier AI processors, created to meet US regulatory thresholds while preserving a foothold in the lucrative Chinese AI sector. However, renewed concerns from both sides of the Pacific have [reignited debates over AI chip export] controls and national security implications. Nvidia, based in California, has found itself increasingly caught between Washington's containment strategy and Beijing's push for technological sovereignty. As part of tightening US-China tech tensions, American lawmakers have proposed requiring Nvidia and other AI chipmakers to embed location tracking and remote-disable features into their products. While the proposals are framed as safeguards against unauthorized use, Beijing views such measures as potential vectors for foreign surveillance and control, particularly when implemented in semiconductors destined for Chinese infrastructure or research facilities. The CAC's summons of Nvidia appears to be part of a broader effort to assert Chinese data and cyber sovereignty as foreign technology continues to play a role in sensitive sectors. [said it would resume H20 sales in China] <https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/nvidia-cleared-to-resume-ai-ch…> [reignited debates over AI chip export] <https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/nvidia-cleared-to-resume-ai-ch…> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Saluti, 380° [1] che poi tecnicamente sono dei veri e propri SoC (system on chip): si capisce la differenza vero?!? [2] per un esempio si veda alla voce "Intel Management Engine": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine#Security_vulnerabilit… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine#Assertions_that_ME_is… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine#By_Google -- 380° (lost in /traslation/) «Welcome to the chaos of the times If you go left and I go right Pray we make it out alive This is Karmageddon»

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An internet privacy expert has said she was called a “paedo” during a UK Government meeting after raising concerns about the Online Safety Act
by Fabio Alemagna July 31, 2025

July 31, 2025

The legislation, which came into force on July 25, mandates that websites verify users’ age – often using facial recognition or photo ID – before granting access to adult content such as pornography, violence, or material on self-harm and eating disorders. Heather Burns, a tech policy specialist and author of Understanding Privacy <https://heatherburns.tech/book/>, told The National the UK Government and Ofcom had been on a “full-scale media blitz … really hammering down on the lines that this is about children and it's about pornography”. However, she said: “It's not. It applies to any service provider anywhere in the world whose services could theoretically be accessed in Britain. It applies to a bare minimum of, the last figure I saw was 60,000 companies. “What we're seeing over the past week is six years of narratives collapsing into reality in real time.” Burns warned of threats to journalism and freedom of information, noting that sites like Reddit have begun age-checking users accessing “things like forums about war crimes in Gaza <https://www.thenational.scot/topics/Gaza/> and Ukraine <https://www.thenational.scot/topics/ukraine/>”. “This is escalating quickly,” she added. “We're one week in and platforms are censoring news content – because they have to. “I think we're going to see more journalistic content blocked or age restricted before we get a resolution here, and that's scary.” The issue has seen Wikipedia launch a court case <https://www.courthousenews.com/wikipedia-seeks-to-shield-contributors-from-…> against the UK Government because, Burns explained, “they've been thrown into Category One compliance requirements, which is full-fat, full-on, on the grounds that Wikipedia has articles about self-harm, suicide, and eating disorders”. “If young people can't find straightforward, factual, curated information on an encyclopaedia, where are they going to go? They're going to go to the really nasty places you wouldn't want any child looking at.” She added: “History tells us that it's never a good idea when governments start demanding censorship of encyclopaedias.” Continua a leggere qui: https://www.thenational.scot/news/25354060.tech-expert-called-paedo-home-of…

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AI Now: "Artificial Power: 2025 Landscape Report"
by J.C. DE MARTIN July 30, 2025

July 30, 2025

Jun 3, 2025 *Artificial Power: 2025 Landscape Report * https://ainowinstitute.org/publications/research/ai-now-2025-landscape-repo… *Overview* /Artificial Power, /our 2025 Landscape Report, puts forward an actionable strategy for the public to reclaim agency over the future of AI. In the aftermath of the “AI boom,” the report examines how the push to integrate AI products everywhere grants AI companies – and the tech oligarchs that run them – power that goes far beyond their deep pockets. We need to reckon with the ways in which today’s AI isn’t just being used /by/ us, it’s being used /on/ us. The report moves from diagnosis to action: offering concrete strategies for community organizers, policymakers, and the public to change this trajectory. Executive Summary: https://ainowinstitute.org/publications/research/executive-summary-artifici… Download Full Report: https://ainowinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/FINAL-20250609_AINowL…

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[Responsible AI Talk] The AI Alignment Problem, Camilla Bignotti, Banca d’Italia
by Daniele Quercia July 29, 2025

July 29, 2025

The AI Alignment Problem: Bridging Lab Research and Policy Solutions Camilla Bignotti, Banca d’Italia Join the meeting <https://teams.microsoft.com/l/meetup-join/19%3ameeting_MDc4MGUzZWMtY2FhNi00…> The rapid advancement of large language models (LLMs) raises significant concerns about their alignment with human values and goals, particularly given their potential impact on individual lives. The alignment problem can be analysed through two complementary perspectives: conducting empirical experimentation to assess whether AI models align with human expectations or designing policy instruments to implement effective AI governance. This seminar will combine both approaches. Starting from an empirical analysis of how large language models interpret constitutional principles in complex decision-making scenarios, we demonstrate the risks posed by polarized or biased models in complex decision-making contexts. These findings highlight the need for robust training and evaluation methods to address these challenges and ensure model alignment with societal values. This challenge extends beyond the specific domain explored in our study—it represents a crucial aspect related to foundational models applications across their diverse domains. Therefore, we must investigate comprehensive measures to tackle the alignment problem while promoting safe and responsible AI development without stifling innovation. Public-private partnerships are fundamental building blocks for effective AI governance. By creating spaces for dialogue on standard-setting and pilot testing, regulatory institutions and private actors can align their objectives toward responsible innovation. Innovation facilitators established by several European Central Banks exemplify effective tools for promoting stakeholder cooperation in responsible AI deployment. Milano Hub, Banca d'Italia's innovation centre, provides a compelling use case: through its Call for Proposals, it supports promising solutions while steering innovation in a positive direction. <https://arxiv.org/abs/2407.02191> Camilla Bignotti serves as a legal expert at Banca d'Italia's Innovation Centre "Milano Hub," where she contributes to central banking activities that support the digital transformation of the banking, financial, and payments sectors. Her work includes fostering international cooperation among regulatory institutions and innovation hubs in the field of technological evolution. Recently, she was seconded to the Central Bank of Ireland to collaborate on designing a new regulatory sandbox program. Camilla is a qualified lawyer with a background in transnational and comparative law and growing expertise in regulatory frameworks related to financial innovation and artificial intelligence. Subscribe to future talk announcements: Anyone outside Bell Labs can receive talk announcements by subscribing to the mailing list. To subscribe, send an empty email with the subject line "Subscribe RAI" to daniele.quercia(a)nokia-bell-labs.com<mailto:daniele.quercia@nokia-bell-labs.com>.

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[Responsible AI Talk] The AI Alignment Problem, Camilla Bignotti, Banca d’Italia
by Daniele Quercia July 28, 2025

July 28, 2025

The AI Alignment Problem: Bridging Lab Research and Policy Solutions Camilla Bignotti, Banca d’Italia Join the meeting <https://teams.microsoft.com/l/meetup-join/19%3ameeting_MDc4MGUzZWMtY2FhNi00…> The rapid advancement of large language models (LLMs) raises significant concerns about their alignment with human values and goals, particularly given their potential impact on individual lives. The alignment problem can be analysed through two complementary perspectives: conducting empirical experimentation to assess whether AI models align with human expectations or designing policy instruments to implement effective AI governance. This seminar will combine both approaches. Starting from an empirical analysis of how large language models interpret constitutional principles in complex decision-making scenarios, we demonstrate the risks posed by polarized or biased models in complex decision-making contexts. These findings highlight the need for robust training and evaluation methods to address these challenges and ensure model alignment with societal values. This challenge extends beyond the specific domain explored in our study—it represents a crucial aspect related to foundational models applications across their diverse domains. Therefore, we must investigate comprehensive measures to tackle the alignment problem while promoting safe and responsible AI development without stifling innovation. Public-private partnerships are fundamental building blocks for effective AI governance. By creating spaces for dialogue on standard-setting and pilot testing, regulatory institutions and private actors can align their objectives toward responsible innovation. Innovation facilitators established by several European Central Banks exemplify effective tools for promoting stakeholder cooperation in responsible AI deployment. Milano Hub, Banca d'Italia's innovation centre, provides a compelling use case: through its Call for Proposals, it supports promising solutions while steering innovation in a positive direction. <https://arxiv.org/abs/2407.02191> Camilla Bignotti serves as a legal expert at Banca d'Italia's Innovation Centre "Milano Hub," where she contributes to central banking activities that support the digital transformation of the banking, financial, and payments sectors. Her work includes fostering international cooperation among regulatory institutions and innovation hubs in the field of technological evolution. Recently, she was seconded to the Central Bank of Ireland to collaborate on designing a new regulatory sandbox program. Camilla is a qualified lawyer with a background in transnational and comparative law and growing expertise in regulatory frameworks related to financial innovation and artificial intelligence. Subscribe to future talk announcements: Anyone outside Bell Labs can receive talk announcements by subscribing to the mailing list. To subscribe, send an empty email with the subject line "Subscribe RAI" to daniele.quercia(a)nokia-bell-labs.com<mailto:daniele.quercia@nokia-bell-labs.com>.

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Re: [nexa] "China releases AI action plan days after the U.S. as global tech race heats up"
by Giuseppe Attardi July 28, 2025

July 28, 2025

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