Fwd: Directing Italian govt to give its business to Amazon?
--------- Messaggio inoltrato --------- Oggetto: Directing Italian govt to give its business to Amazon? Data: venerdì 12 febbraio 2016, 07:32:04 Da: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> A: ciurcina@studiolegale.it [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] https://www.amazon.com/p/feature/2xyfsxhpr5vo83f?ref_=aa_lc_0&pf_rd_r=CNSWRN... As an Amazon executive he is involved with (1) DRM (Amazon Swindle) (2) products that snoop on their users (Amazon Swindle) (3) proprietary software (Amazon Swindle) (4) inviting organizations to entrust sensitive data to computers run by companies (Amazon servers) (5) inviting organizations to entrust sensitive data to computers run by US companies (Amazon servers) (6) Paying workers 2 dollars an hour (Mechanical Turk). We cannot judge his actions and statements until he does them, but we have grounds to worry that he may encourage the Italian state to go in these directions, which would be very bad. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html. ------------------------------------------
Caro Marco, Concordo, credo ci sia molto da interrogarsi quando un Presidente del Consiglio invita Jeff Bezos via Twitter (sic) a parlare di "innovation". Credo serva chiederci di quale modello di innovazione stiamo parlando. Quale modello di cultura digitale consideriamo come ispiratore. Il fatto poi che un top manager decida di lavorare gratis per il proprio Paese può anche essere positivo, a patto che non venga meno il controllo democratico sui criteri di scelta e sull'operato, specie riguardo ai potenziali conflitti di intesse. AM On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 08:28:28 +0100 Marco Ciurcina <ciurcina@studiolegale.it> wrote:
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Oggetto: Directing Italian govt to give its business to Amazon? Data: venerdì 12 febbraio 2016, 07:32:04 Da: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> A: ciurcina@studiolegale.it
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
https://www.amazon.com/p/feature/2xyfsxhpr5vo83f?ref_=aa_lc_0&pf_rd_r=CNSWRN...
As an Amazon executive he is involved with (1) DRM (Amazon Swindle) (2) products that snoop on their users (Amazon Swindle) (3) proprietary software (Amazon Swindle) (4) inviting organizations to entrust sensitive data to computers run by companies (Amazon servers) (5) inviting organizations to entrust sensitive data to computers run by US companies (Amazon servers) (6) Paying workers 2 dollars an hour (Mechanical Turk).
We cannot judge his actions and statements until he does them, but we have grounds to worry that he may encourage the Italian state to go in these directions, which would be very bad.
-- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.
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Finalmente posso dire di esser d'accordo con Alessandro e Marco. Mi pare una vicenda incredibile, e la gratuità dell'incarico sottolineata dal PresdelCons mi pare ulteriore elemento di forte inquietudine. Dove vuole andare l'Italia digitale? Non sono un detrattore della Silicon Valley, anzi, fanno il loro mestiere, lo fanno bene, e ad oggi voglio continuare a vedere più benefici che disastri, ma che lo Stato se li porti in casa con il vacuo tecno-entusiasmo renziano, sbandierando come un successo l'arrivo di Amazon al governo mi pare un fatto rivelatore di molte cose... C. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: nexa [mailto:nexa-bounces@server-nexa.polito.it] Per conto di Alessandro Mantelero Inviato: lunedì 15 febbraio 2016 09:01 A: Marco Ciurcina; nexa@server-nexa.polito.it Oggetto: Re: [nexa] Fwd: Directing Italian govt to give its business to Amazon? Caro Marco, Concordo, credo ci sia molto da interrogarsi quando un Presidente del Consiglio invita Jeff Bezos via Twitter (sic) a parlare di "innovation". Credo serva chiederci di quale modello di innovazione stiamo parlando. Quale modello di cultura digitale consideriamo come ispiratore. Il fatto poi che un top manager decida di lavorare gratis per il proprio Paese può anche essere positivo, a patto che non venga meno il controllo democratico sui criteri di scelta e sull'operato, specie riguardo ai potenziali conflitti di intesse. AM On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 08:28:28 +0100 Marco Ciurcina <ciurcina@studiolegale.it> wrote:
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Oggetto: Directing Italian govt to give its business to Amazon? Data: venerdì 12 febbraio 2016, 07:32:04 Da: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> A: ciurcina@studiolegale.it
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
https://www.amazon.com/p/feature/2xyfsxhpr5vo83f?ref_=aa_lc_0&pf_rd_r= CNSWRNAMDM1QF08F9476&pf_rd_p=5bfb6225-9266-4881-91cf-a5ed51e575b2
As an Amazon executive he is involved with (1) DRM (Amazon Swindle) (2) products that snoop on their users (Amazon Swindle) (3) proprietary software (Amazon Swindle) (4) inviting organizations to entrust sensitive data to computers run by companies (Amazon servers) (5) inviting organizations to entrust sensitive data to computers run by US companies (Amazon servers) (6) Paying workers 2 dollars an hour (Mechanical Turk).
We cannot judge his actions and statements until he does them, but we have grounds to worry that he may encourage the Italian state to go in these directions, which would be very bad.
-- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.
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