Microsoft, Mistral AI e l'AI Act
Microsoft and Mistral AI announce new partnership to accelerate AI innovation and introduce Mistral Large first on Azure By Eric Boyd, Corporate Vice President, Azure AI Platform, Microsoft https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/microsoft-and-mistral-ai-announce-new... ----- Il commento di Luca Bertuzzi: This is a mind-blowing announcement. Mistral AI, the French company that has been fighting tooth and nail to water down the #AIAct's foundation model rules, is partnering up with Microsoft. So much for 'give us a fighting chance against Big Tech'. The first question that comes to mind is: was this deal in the making while the AI Act was being negotiated? That would mean Mistral discussed selling a minority stake to Microsoft while playing the 'European champion' card with the EU and French institutions. If so, this whole thing might be a masterclass in astroturfing, and it seems unrealistic for a partnership like this to be finalised in less than a month. Many people involved in the AI Act noted how Big Tech's lobbying on GPAI suddenly went quiet toward the end. That is because they did not need to intervene since Mistral was doing the 'dirty work' for them. Remarkably, Mistral's talking points were extremely similar to those of Big Tech rather than those of a small AI start-up, based on their ambition to reach that scale. The other question is how much the French government knew about this upcoming partnership with Microsoft. It seems unlikely Paris was kept completely in the dark, but cosying up with Big Tech does not really sit well with France's strive for 'strategic autonomy'. Especially since the agreement includes making Mistral's large language model available on Microsoft's Azure AI platform, while France has been pushing for an EU cybersecurity scheme to exclude American hyperscalers from the European market. Still today, and I doubt it is a coincidence, Mistral has announced the launch of Large, a new language model intended to compete directly with OpenAI's GPT-4. However, unlike previous models, Large will not be open source. In other words, Mistral is no longer (just) a European leader and is backtracking on its much-celebrated open source approach. Where does this leave the start-up vis-à-vis EU policymakers as the AI Act's enforcement approaches? My guess is that someone will inevitably feel played. https://twitter.com/BertuzLuca/status/1762197130616209765 oppure https://www.linkedin.com/posts/luca-bertuzzi-186729130_introducing-mistral-l...
Che Mistral abbia venduto una quota a Microsoft io però non l'ho letto da nessuna parte. Da quello che si capisce, Mistral Large sarà disponibile su Azure, forse perché le alternative non erano molte e non erano meglio. Che questo modello GPT-4-like non sia 'open' mi pare altrettanto ineluttabile: chi potrebbe scaricarselo? E dove? E perché? La cosa importante è che vi siano modelli aperti di dimensioni trattabili che siano abbastanza buoni da consentire ad aziende e enti pubblici di usare l'AI generativa in modo efficace e autonomo sulle proprie infrastrutture, senza cadere sotto il dominio del monopolista di turno. Questa è la frontiera che l'EU dovrebbe difendere. G. On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 at 23:03, Daniela Tafani <daniela.tafani@unipi.it> wrote:
Microsoft and Mistral AI announce new partnership to accelerate AI innovation and introduce Mistral Large first on Azure By Eric Boyd, Corporate Vice President, Azure AI Platform, Microsoft
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/microsoft-and-mistral-ai-announce-new... ----- Il commento di Luca Bertuzzi: This is a mind-blowing announcement. Mistral AI, the French company that has been fighting tooth and nail to water down the #AIAct's foundation model rules, is partnering up with Microsoft. So much for 'give us a fighting chance against Big Tech'. The first question that comes to mind is: was this deal in the making while the AI Act was being negotiated? That would mean Mistral discussed selling a minority stake to Microsoft while playing the 'European champion' card with the EU and French institutions. If so, this whole thing might be a masterclass in astroturfing, and it seems unrealistic for a partnership like this to be finalised in less than a month. Many people involved in the AI Act noted how Big Tech's lobbying on GPAI suddenly went quiet toward the end. That is because they did not need to intervene since Mistral was doing the 'dirty work' for them. Remarkably, Mistral's talking points were extremely similar to those of Big Tech rather than those of a small AI start-up, based on their ambition to reach that scale. The other question is how much the French government knew about this upcoming partnership with Microsoft. It seems unlikely Paris was kept completely in the dark, but cosying up with Big Tech does not really sit well with France's strive for 'strategic autonomy'. Especially since the agreement includes making Mistral's large language model available on Microsoft's Azure AI platform, while France has been pushing for an EU cybersecurity scheme to exclude American hyperscalers from the European market. Still today, and I doubt it is a coincidence, Mistral has announced the launch of Large, a new language model intended to compete directly with OpenAI's GPT-4. However, unlike previous models, Large will not be open source. In other words, Mistral is no longer (just) a European leader and is backtracking on its much-celebrated open source approach. Where does this leave the start-up vis-à-vis EU policymakers as the AI Act's enforcement approaches? My guess is that someone will inevitably feel played.
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Buongiorno Guido, Una domanda da inesperto: ma se ormai molti enti privati e pubblici sono nei loro clouds, ad esempio Azure, è tecnicamente possibile per enti pubblici e/o aziende usare dei modelli aperti di AI generativa in modo autonomo, saltando quello built-in? Cordiali saluti, Alessandro On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 at 08:58, Guido Vetere <vetere.guido@gmail.com> wrote:
Che Mistral abbia venduto una quota a Microsoft io però non l'ho letto da nessuna parte. Da quello che si capisce, Mistral Large sarà disponibile su Azure, forse perché le alternative non erano molte e non erano meglio. Che questo modello GPT-4-like non sia 'open' mi pare altrettanto ineluttabile: chi potrebbe scaricarselo? E dove? E perché?
La cosa importante è che vi siano modelli aperti di dimensioni trattabili che siano abbastanza buoni da consentire ad aziende e enti pubblici di usare l'AI generativa in modo efficace e autonomo sulle proprie infrastrutture, senza cadere sotto il dominio del monopolista di turno. Questa è la frontiera che l'EU dovrebbe difendere.
G.
On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 at 23:03, Daniela Tafani <daniela.tafani@unipi.it> wrote:
Microsoft and Mistral AI announce new partnership to accelerate AI innovation and introduce Mistral Large first on Azure By Eric Boyd, Corporate Vice President, Azure AI Platform, Microsoft
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/microsoft-and-mistral-ai-announce-new... ----- Il commento di Luca Bertuzzi: This is a mind-blowing announcement. Mistral AI, the French company that has been fighting tooth and nail to water down the #AIAct's foundation model rules, is partnering up with Microsoft. So much for 'give us a fighting chance against Big Tech'. The first question that comes to mind is: was this deal in the making while the AI Act was being negotiated? That would mean Mistral discussed selling a minority stake to Microsoft while playing the 'European champion' card with the EU and French institutions. If so, this whole thing might be a masterclass in astroturfing, and it seems unrealistic for a partnership like this to be finalised in less than a month. Many people involved in the AI Act noted how Big Tech's lobbying on GPAI suddenly went quiet toward the end. That is because they did not need to intervene since Mistral was doing the 'dirty work' for them. Remarkably, Mistral's talking points were extremely similar to those of Big Tech rather than those of a small AI start-up, based on their ambition to reach that scale. The other question is how much the French government knew about this upcoming partnership with Microsoft. It seems unlikely Paris was kept completely in the dark, but cosying up with Big Tech does not really sit well with France's strive for 'strategic autonomy'. Especially since the agreement includes making Mistral's large language model available on Microsoft's Azure AI platform, while France has been pushing for an EU cybersecurity scheme to exclude American hyperscalers from the European market. Still today, and I doubt it is a coincidence, Mistral has announced the launch of Large, a new language model intended to compete directly with OpenAI's GPT-4. However, unlike previous models, Large will not be open source. In other words, Mistral is no longer (just) a European leader and is backtracking on its much-celebrated open source approach. Where does this leave the start-up vis-à-vis EU policymakers as the AI Act's enforcement approaches? My guess is that someone will inevitably feel played.
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certo: magari puoi usare il modello large via API su Azure mentre il medium lo installi sul server da 20K giù in cantina con un po' di impegno da parte del tuo IT (prompting, fine-tuning, few-shot, etc) fai i confronti e magari alla fine scopri che del large model puoi fare benissimo a meno e semplicemente non lo usi più per questo, più che stracciarsi le vesti servirebbe capire concretamente quali strategie convengono e quali competenze servono G. On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 at 09:17, Alessandro Brolpito <abrolpito@gmail.com> wrote:
Buongiorno Guido,
Una domanda da inesperto: ma se ormai molti enti privati e pubblici sono nei loro clouds, ad esempio Azure, è tecnicamente possibile per enti pubblici e/o aziende usare dei modelli aperti di AI generativa in modo autonomo, saltando quello built-in?
Cordiali saluti, Alessandro
On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 at 08:58, Guido Vetere <vetere.guido@gmail.com> wrote:
Che Mistral abbia venduto una quota a Microsoft io però non l'ho letto da nessuna parte. Da quello che si capisce, Mistral Large sarà disponibile su Azure, forse perché le alternative non erano molte e non erano meglio. Che questo modello GPT-4-like non sia 'open' mi pare altrettanto ineluttabile: chi potrebbe scaricarselo? E dove? E perché?
La cosa importante è che vi siano modelli aperti di dimensioni trattabili che siano abbastanza buoni da consentire ad aziende e enti pubblici di usare l'AI generativa in modo efficace e autonomo sulle proprie infrastrutture, senza cadere sotto il dominio del monopolista di turno. Questa è la frontiera che l'EU dovrebbe difendere.
G.
On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 at 23:03, Daniela Tafani <daniela.tafani@unipi.it> wrote:
Microsoft and Mistral AI announce new partnership to accelerate AI innovation and introduce Mistral Large first on Azure By Eric Boyd, Corporate Vice President, Azure AI Platform, Microsoft
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/microsoft-and-mistral-ai-announce-new... ----- Il commento di Luca Bertuzzi: This is a mind-blowing announcement. Mistral AI, the French company that has been fighting tooth and nail to water down the #AIAct's foundation model rules, is partnering up with Microsoft. So much for 'give us a fighting chance against Big Tech'. The first question that comes to mind is: was this deal in the making while the AI Act was being negotiated? That would mean Mistral discussed selling a minority stake to Microsoft while playing the 'European champion' card with the EU and French institutions. If so, this whole thing might be a masterclass in astroturfing, and it seems unrealistic for a partnership like this to be finalised in less than a month. Many people involved in the AI Act noted how Big Tech's lobbying on GPAI suddenly went quiet toward the end. That is because they did not need to intervene since Mistral was doing the 'dirty work' for them. Remarkably, Mistral's talking points were extremely similar to those of Big Tech rather than those of a small AI start-up, based on their ambition to reach that scale. The other question is how much the French government knew about this upcoming partnership with Microsoft. It seems unlikely Paris was kept completely in the dark, but cosying up with Big Tech does not really sit well with France's strive for 'strategic autonomy'. Especially since the agreement includes making Mistral's large language model available on Microsoft's Azure AI platform, while France has been pushing for an EU cybersecurity scheme to exclude American hyperscalers from the European market. Still today, and I doubt it is a coincidence, Mistral has announced the launch of Large, a new language model intended to compete directly with OpenAI's GPT-4. However, unlike previous models, Large will not be open source. In other words, Mistral is no longer (just) a European leader and is backtracking on its much-celebrated open source approach. Where does this leave the start-up vis-à-vis EU policymakers as the AI Act's enforcement approaches? My guess is that someone will inevitably feel played.
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Da: Guido Vetere <vetere.guido@gmail.com> Inviato: martedì 27 febbraio 2024 08:58
Che Mistral abbia venduto una quota a Microsoft io però non l'ho letto da nessuna parte.
La cosa importante è che vi siano modelli aperti di dimensioni trattabili che siano abbastanza buoni da consentire ad aziende e enti pubblici di usare l'AI generativa in modo efficace e autonomo sulle proprie infrastrutture, senza cadere sotto il dominio del monopolista di turno. Questa è la frontiera che l'EU dovrebbe difendere.
Earlier this week, Microsoft (MSFT.O) said it had made a 15-million euro ($16 million) investment in Mistral, and would soon make the Paris-based company's AI models available via its Azure cloud computing platform. Following the announcement, a Microsoft spokesperson told Reuters it had invested in Mistral without taking a stake. Later, Microsoft clarified that its investment would convert into equity in Mistral's next funding round, a common practice among big tech companies investing in AI startups. https://www.reuters.com/technology/france-had-no-prior-knowledge-microsofts-...
meno dell'1%, a valutazioni correnti in pratica hanno comprato 15M di cpu power da MS... On 28/02/24 20:32, Daniela Tafani wrote:
Da: Guido Vetere <vetere.guido@gmail.com> Inviato: martedì 27 febbraio 2024 08:58
Che Mistral abbia venduto una quota a Microsoft io però non l'ho letto da nessuna parte.
La cosa importante è che vi siano modelli aperti di dimensioni trattabili che siano abbastanza buoni da consentire ad aziende e enti pubblici di usare l'AI generativa in modo efficace e autonomo sulle proprie infrastrutture, senza cadere sotto il dominio del monopolista di turno. Questa è la frontiera che l'EU dovrebbe difendere.
Earlier this week, Microsoft (MSFT.O) said it had made a 15-million euro ($16 million) investment in Mistral, and would soon make the Paris-based company's AI models available via its Azure cloud computing platform.
Following the announcement, a Microsoft spokesperson told Reuters it had invested in Mistral without taking a stake. Later, Microsoft clarified that its investment would convert into equity in Mistral's next funding round, a common practice among big tech companies investing in AI startups.
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