Buongiorno Daniela, mi hai anticipato :-) scusa(te) ma per questioni "archivistiche" preferisco un nuovo thread in lista nexa e per questo ho tolto i riferimenti al thread precedente [1] entrambe le notizie (questa e [1]) sono "vecchie" ma ora sono sostanziate e "rinverdite" dal fatto che alcuni documenti sono stati (ri)pubblicati completamente in chiaro per completezza, ecco la pagina CourtListener di «Klein v. Meta Platforms, Inc. (3:20-cv-08570)»: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18714274/klein-v-facebook-inc dove sono elencati tutti i documenti, molti dei quali sono liberamente disponibili. il documento relativo alle accuse a Netflix è questo: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.369872/gov.uscourt... Daniela Tafani <daniela.tafani@unipi.it> writes:

Grazie, 380°. Oggi c'è anche questo:

META WATCH OUT Netflix had ‘access to people’s private Facebook messages’ as part of secret ‘special relationship’ lawsuit claims Meta has rejected the claims

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https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/27077170/meta-facebook-netflix-special-relatio...

Riporto quello di Ars Technica che mi sembra riassumere meglio i termini della questione. «Facebook let Netflix see user DMs, quit streaming to keep Netflix happy: Lawsuit» https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/03/netflix-ad-spend-led-to-facebook-dm-... --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- [Scharon Harding] - Mar 28, 2024 8:40 pm UTC [...] The streaming business' demise has seemed related to cost cuts at Meta that have also included layoffs. However, recently unsealed court documents in an antitrust suit against Meta [ [PDF]] claim that Meta has squashed its streaming dreams in order to appease one of its biggest ad customers: Netflix. [PDF] <https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Klein-v.-Meta-Platfor...> Facebook allegedly gave Netflix creepy privileges ────────────────────────────────────────────────── [...] The letter, made public Saturday, asks a court to have Reed Hastings, Netflix's founder and former CEO, respond to a subpoena for documents that plaintiffs claim are relevant to the case. The original complaint filed in December 2020 [ [PDF]] doesn't mention Netflix beyond stating that Facebook “secretly signed Whitelist and Data sharing agreements” with Netflix, along with “dozens” of other third-party app developers. The case is still ongoing. [...] The litigation claims the companies formed a lucrative business relationship that included Facebook allegedly giving Netflix access to Facebook users' private messages: By 2013, Netflix had begun entering into a series of “Facebook Extended API” agreements, including a so-called “Inbox API” agreement that allowed Netflix programmatic access to Facebook's users' private message inboxes, in exchange for which Netflix would “provide to FB a written report every two weeks that shows daily counts of recommendation sends and recipient clicks by interface, initiation surface, and/or implementation variant (e.g., Facebook vs. non-Facebook recommendation recipients). … In August 2013, Facebook provided Netflix with access to its so-called “Titan API,” a private API that allowed a whitelisted partner to access, among other things, Facebook users' “messaging app and non-app friends." Meta [said] it rolled out end-to-end encryption "for all personal chats and calls on Messenger and Facebook" in December. And in 2018, Facebook [told Vox] that it doesn't use private messages for ad targeting. But a few months later, The New York Times, citing "hundreds of pages of Facebook documents," [reported that] Facebook "gave Netflix and Spotify the ability to read Facebook users' private messages." Facebook has [denied] that it let third-party companies view its users' private messages When reached for comment, a Meta spokesperson declined to comment on specific questions, including why Meta ended Facebook Watch. However, the company rep again denied claims that Facebook let Netflix read its users' private messages. The spokesperson said Facebook's agreement with Netflix only "allowed people to message their friends on Facebook about what they were watching on Netflix, directly from the Netflix app" and that Meta's "confident the facts will show this complaint is meritless." [PDF] <https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/complaint.pdf> [said] <https://about.fb.com/news/2023/12/default-end-to-end-encryption-on-messenger...> [told Vox] <https://www.vox.com/2018/4/11/17177842/facebook-advertising-ads-explained-ma...> [reported that] <https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/12/report-facebook-let-companies-ge...> [denied] <https://about.fb.com/news/2018/12/facebooks-messaging-partnerships/> Facebook's streaming ambitions ════════════════════════════════ [...] But Facebook Watch never really took off as a full-fledged TV/movie streaming effort à la Netflix or Amazon Prime Video. And in 2023, efforts essentially ended when Facebook [said] it wasn't renewing any Watch shows [...] it seemed plausible that Facebook simply thought it couldn't compete in streaming. At the time, Meta said it was going to focus on making VR experiences instead. [...] The plaintiffs also claimed that after Facebook was confident about having enough budget to license the likes of /Dawson's Creek/ "in competition with Netflix" in 2018, the Watch budget was mysteriously and suddenly slashed by $750 million that same year. Zuckerberg allegedly said via email in May 2018 that the budget changes were based on "knowing what I know today about our strategy and financial outlook." The letter alleges: Despite… protestations, Zuckerberg's abrupt new Watch strategy became policy—Facebook began dismantling the multi-billion dollar original content business it had built over the past two years… Amidst the sudden pivot in Facebook's video strategy, the data partnership between Netflix and Facebook reached new heights. Those new heights included, per the litigation, a new data-sharing agreement in July 2018 and Netflix reaching $200 million in advertising spend with Meta by 2019. [said] <https://deadline.com/2023/04/red-table-talk-canceled-mina-lefevre-exits-face...> [...] --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Qualcuno oggi ha osservato che, se accedi a Netflix con il tuo account Facebook, "acconsenti" alla condivisione dei dati.

Vedremo che fine farà questa causa. Intanto è sempre più chiaro in cosa consise il "mercato dei fatti vostri" a cui stiamo assistendo [...] Saluti, 380° [1] https://server-nexa.polito.it/pipermail/nexa/2024-April/052414.html (Message-ID: 033accffc13b4e588aec1769583a99c3@unipi.it) -- 380° (Giovanni Biscuolo public alter ego) «Noi, incompetenti come siamo, non abbiamo alcun titolo per suggerire alcunché» Disinformation flourishes because many people care deeply about injustice but very few check the facts. Ask me about <https://stallmansupport.org>.