Non ho ascoltato ancora il podcast e spero anche io che Morozov intenda pubblicare sotto altra forma, ma le vicende di Cybersyn e Beer sono abbastanza documentate da alcuni anni:
Eden Medina. Designing Freedom, Regulating a Nation: Socialist Cybernetics in Allende's Chile , in Journal of Latin American Studies, vol. 38, n. 38, Cambridge University Press, 2006, pp. 571-606, DOI:10.1017/S0022216X06001179.
Disponibile su sci-hub <https://sci-hub.se/https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-latin-american-studies/article/abs/designing-freedom-regulating-a-nation-socialist-cybernetics-in-allendes-chile/4CF75E30D22554152A5EFDC9740E3440>
Eden Medina, Cybernetic Revolutionaries: Technology and Politics in Allende’s Chile (Cambridge, MA: MIT Press, 2011)
Nella collezione di Philosophy Kitchen 18 (marzo 2023) presentata da poco in questa lista si parla di Beer e Cybersyn in due articoli:
Robin Asby - On The Framing of Systems and Cybernetic Models <https://ojs.unito.it/index.php/philosophykitchen/article/view/7836>
Paolo Capriati - Autopoiesi dei sistemi politici: il caso Cybersyn <https://ojs.unito.it/index.php/philosophykitchen/article/view/7837>
Nel 2008 sul NYT è comparso un articolo ben informato (togliere js per accedere):
Alexei Barrionuevo, March 28, 2008, Before ’73 Coup, Chile Tried to Find the Right Software for Socialism <https://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/28/world/americas/28cybersyn.html>
ciao,
Alberto
_______________________________________________On 23/07/23 10:27, Marco A. Calamari wrote:
Buongiorno a tutti. Estremamente interessante, anche se la forma di podcast può essere limitante. Esiste in forma (anche non ufficiale) di libro / trascrizione / traduzione? Buona giornata. Marco On dom, 2023-07-23 at 08:51 +0200, J.C. DE MARTIN wrote:E' online The Santiago Boys, il nuovo, splendido progetto di Evgeny Morozov: https://the-santiago-boys.com/ Qui sotto l'annuncio. Inoltre, oggi "La Lettura" dedica quattro pagine (!) all'iniziativa e ieri il Guardian da pubblicato un articolo a uno dei protagonisti della storia, Stafford Beer:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/22/stafford-beer-chile-allende -technology-cybernetics Bravo, Evgeny! juan carlos The podcast that took 2+ years and 200+ interviews to produce is finally online! You can listen to it on the main podcasting platforms (including Spotify and Apple Podcasts). The website of the Santiago Boys offers plenty of extra materials for those of you who want to dig deeper: footnotes, backgrounders, sources, videos, a glossary, and so much else. And we are also publishing the interviews with the many people we interviewed (check out, for example, this interview with Brian Eno where he talks about Stafford Beer and his own fascination with cybernetics). Many thanks to dozens of people who worked on this ambitious project; you can see all their names here. I hope you take a break from the Barbenheimer hyper and spend some time with the Santiago Boys instead! Evgeny Morozov _______________________________________________ nexa mailing list nexa@server-nexa.polito.it https://server-nexa.polito.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nexa_______________________________________________ nexa mailing list nexa@server-nexa.polito.it https://server-nexa.polito.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nexa
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