Alberto Cammozzo scrive:

Microsoft non è l'unica a localizzare in UE:

… Amazon will open London datacenter by early 2017 AWS plans to offer its third location for Europeans worried about where their data is stored

 

Ecco, in Inghilterra. Bravi, così siamo tutti più tranquilli: http://www.lastampa.it/2015/11/05/tecnologia/cos-luk-spier-lattivit-online-degli-utenti-NuhrLfrBul9pOHQXyHvM9L/pagina.html

 

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Da: nexa-bounces@server-nexa.polito.it [mailto:nexa-bounces@server-nexa.polito.it] Per conto di Alberto Cammozzo
Inviato: mercoledì 11 novembre 2015 18:01
A: nexa@server-nexa.polito.it
Oggetto: Re: [nexa] Microsoft opta per un data trustee tedesco

 

Microsoft non è l'unica a localizzare in UE:

 

Amazon

<www.pcworld.com/article/3002521/amazon-will-open-london-datacenter-by-early-2017.html>

Amazon will open London datacenter by early 2017 AWS plans to offer its third location for Europeans worried about where their data is stored

 

EMC

<www.pcworld.com/article/3003424/what-to-do-for-privacy-after-safe-harbor-syncplicity-has-an-idea.html>

EMC sold Syncplicity to a private equity firm earlier this year. The company offers subscribers a range of ways to store their data: They can keep it on their own premises, in a private cloud, in Syncplicity’s public cloud, or in some combination of those. They can access that data from desktops, laptops and mobile devices.

The new option coming in 2016 will let users select the storage region of their choice with one click and no additional steps, Syncplicity says. That could mean choosing clouds based in Europe as the sole repository for their files.

Also next year, the company will go one step further to help ensure data is protected under European privacy law. It will set up a Syncplicity Cloud Orchestration Layer in Europe so data stored on the continent isn’t even controlled in the U.S. Metadata used in managing the stored information, such as user names, email addresses and file names, will be stored and processed in Europe.

As an additional step while new rules are worked out, Syncplicity now includes so-called Model Clauses in its Cloud Services Agreements. Those clauses, crafted by the European Union, are designed to meet privacy requirements. Microsoft and other companies already use them.

 

 

Pare anche che sia in stallo l'accordo che dovrebbe sostituire Safe Harbor, e proprio sulla questione dell’accesso ai dati da parte dell’intelligence nazionale <www.nytimes.com/2015/11/07/technology/europe-wants-to-reach-data-transfer-pact-by-early-2016.html>

Both sides are said to believe that an agreement can be finished by early next year, but negotiators are stuck in part on what kind of access national intelligence agencies will have to people’s online data.

The information includes social media posts and online search histories, as well as more traditional information like financial and personal records.

European officials want the United States to provide greater assurances over how their citizens’ data may be made available to American intelligence agencies when it is transferred outside the region.

European policy makers are concerned that without further limits, any new data-transferring agreement would be challenged in European courts, according to two people with knowledge of the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

By contrast, United States officials said that they believed they had provided sufficient guarantees, and that the recent ruling failed to consider improvements to American privacy safeguards over the last two years that restrict what information is accessible to the country’s intelligence agencies.

 

 

Se non si raggiungesse questo accordo, saranno ancora una volta i giudici a tagliare dei nodi che la politica non riesce più a sbrogliare.

A quanto capisco, sarà infatti l’esito dell’appello Microsoft contro US Govt a risolvere la questione, visto che per per ora, le imprese US sono soggette a warrant federale anche per dati degli utenti conservati in territorio UE, per quanto possa essere garantista la Germania.

 

Però non mi tornano molto i conti: se vincesse il governo USA, questo porterebbe ad una riallocazione dei soggetti autorizzati a operare nel mercato UE, favorendo attori UE e sfavorendo quelli US, attualmente dominanti.

Al contrario, una vittoria di Microsoft (attualmente sostenuta da UE) porterebbe ad un rafforzamento delle multinazionali USA, più libere di operare un UE pur mantenendosi basate in US.

 

 

Alberto

 

 

 

On 11/11/2015 16:06, Alessandro Mantelero wrote:

> Microsoft will host data in Germany to hide it from US spies  >  > [...] opening new data centers in Germany will provide a future safeguard against US demands for data. The company has also announced plans for new data centers in the UK, but Germany's data-protection laws are some of the most rigorous in Europe. By placing its data centers under the control of a Germany company as a "data trustee," Microsoft is forcing any requests for information to be routed through Germany authorities.

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http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/11/9711378/microsoft-german-data-centers-surveillance

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> Mi pare una prospettiva interessante, che contribuisce a sottolineare come occorra fare distinguo fra le imprese IT statunitensi.

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